Astro changes 5.1

[Crushnight]

Came here to discuss new AST changes.
Oh, I see we're still slinging insults at people who are comfortable with the new card system.

And slinging shade is so much better >_>

So what did you want to discuss about the changes? For me the changes barely change anything we lost 3 button presses in the opener(also 2 animations), it still a pain for controller users when going for optimal a problem we didn't have before, Noct barely budged at all which is a shame, I like the idea of CU but its execution was made wonky by the very state the job is in, Diurnal and Nocturnal NEED TO GO they hamper not only AST but the healer role as a whole.

[Seraphor]

And slinging shade is so much better >_>

So what did you want to discuss about the changes? For me the changes barely change anything we lost 3 button presses in the opener(also 2 animations), it still a pain for controller users when going for optimal a problem we didn't have before, Noct barely budged at all which is a shame, I like the idea of CU but its execution was made wonky by the very state the job is in, Diurnal and Nocturnal NEED TO GO they hamper not only AST but the healer role as a whole.

Nocturnal/Diurnal are the reason I play AST, the versatility of two different play styles in one job.
I also play on controller, and these changes, both in 5.0 and 5.1 have been a huge improvement over the SB version in terms of playing cards and minor arcana.
I read people use macros for playing cards... wtf?

[ForteNightshade]

Nocturnal/Diurnal are the reason I play AST, the versatility of two different play styles in one job.
I also play on controller, and these changes, both in 5.0 and 5.1 have been a huge improvement over the SB version in terms of playing cards and minor arcana.
I read people use macros for playing cards... wtf?

I would vehemently disagree. Card management was vastly superior in SB simply because there was a lot less busywork involved. You may not fancy macros but hard targeting—which is the only option on PC—will cause DPS loss since you'll inevitably clip. You still might with macros but it can be more manageable. Regardless, Sleeve Draw remains a huge offender.

You may fancy the changes, which is your prerogative but they are undeniable not popular. If statistics for Savage remain, Astro now offers the most rDPS and is still almost a fourth behind White Mage and Scholar. That alone speaks volumes to how much people dislike the design.

As for people not discussing the changes. There isn't much to discuss. Noct received almost nothing as per usual considering they haven't figured out how to make it work going on four years now. And CU changes are both hit and mess. The potency increase was needed but the Noct version is straight up inferior, thus Diurnal remains the better Sect. Simply put, Noct is dead until it can compete with what Scholar offers. Those are all the changes, which circle back to the core issue people have: the current card/seal system.