If running a parser makes you cynical and depressed, why do it?

[Goji1639]

I was calm and rational in the response I did to your thread, but also defended the parser's. Yeah, I'm angry here, because you're being ridiculous. Just because someone misuses the program, doesn't mean the program is bad. But you can't understand that; rather, you refuse to.
And if you got that out of what I said, my "position", then you are a lost cause. That is a really delusional take.

I'm not terrified of Parser's being banned, because realistically, that's impossible. People will just make new third party software's and bypass it. The only way to go forward from here is to just make it official.

I may be remembering you wrong, but aren't you the one who was making up stories about me being a healer in your group that you kicked, and that was the only reason I was making the thread? I recall you being pretty defensive and trollish, and I can see you already getting pretty defensive here.

Regardless, no tools are inherently bad. Tools are frequently banned anyways, though, when a community proves too immature to handle them. Given my experiences I feel a ban is justified. I'm sorry the way I feel brings out these insecurities in you; maybe you think this kind of thing will get in the way of making parsers official, and that's what scares you.

[Vaunhause]

I may be remembering you wrong, but aren't you the one who was making up stories about me being a healer in your group that you kicked, and that was the only reason I was making the thread? I recall you being pretty defensive and trollish, and I can see you already getting pretty defensive here.

You are remembering incorrectly. I responded at around page 22, or so.

Regardless, no tools are inherently bad. Tools are frequently banned anyways, though, when a community proves too immature to handle them. Given my experiences I feel a ban is justified. I'm sorry the way I feel brings out these insecurities in you; maybe you think this kind of thing will get in the way of making parsers official, and that's what scares you.

Sure, tools get banned for the immature usage of it by a community. What I'm saying is the usage of it is not bad enough to justify the ban, that's all. It has more pros than cons, and I feel like the ban would not be deemed necessary in any case. If anything, they should crack down on the people actually misusing it and ban them permanently after a few repeat offenses, if the reports are valid enough.

Uh. That being said... I'm not feeling insecure at all. Why are you jumping to these conclusions, lol? I just like to play as well as I can, because I like to do a good job. What you said earlier; "I'm not sure if I can take you seriously"?

It... really feels like that hat has been flipped upside down. I don't know if I can take you seriously after what you just said.
It's fine if you feel a ban is justified, I don't think that's wrong. Just like I don't think my feelings are wrong for feeling it's not justified to ban it.

And like I said, I don't care if it's banned, realistically, they cannot stop third party programs, and if they did, they'd be demonizing the entire raiding community. Making it official would be the best way, for sure. But banning it wouldn't change anything.

[Goji1639]

You are remembering incorrectly. I responded at around page 22, or so.




Sure, tools get banned for the immature usage of it by a community. What I'm saying is the usage of it is not bad enough to justify the ban, that's all. It has more pros than cons, and I feel like the ban would not be deemed necessary in any case. If anything, they should crack down on the people actually misusing it and ban them permanently after a few repeat offenses, if the reports are valid enough.

Uh. That being said... I'm not feeling insecure at all. Why are you jumping to these conclusions, lol? I just like to play as well as I can, because I like to do a good job. What you said earlier; "I'm not sure if I can take you seriously"?

It... really feels like that hat has been flipped upside down. I don't know if I can take you seriously after what you just said.
It's fine if you feel a ban is justified, I don't think that's wrong. Just like I don't think my feelings are wrong for feeling it's not justified to ban it.

And like I said, I don't care if it's banned, realistically, they cannot stop third party programs, and if they did, they'd be demonizing the entire raiding community. Making it official would be the best way, for sure. But banning it wouldn't change anything.

Well, if you do recall my thread I was only asking for it to be banned in MSQ and leveling content. I don't really have any issues with parsers being used to try to meta game for Savage content. I dunno, maybe make an official parser that's only operational in Savage and on training dummies, and take a harder stance on parser usage everywhere else.

Either way, once I knew mention of parsers was bannable that was the end of that. The rest of the thread was basically me having somewhat civil discussions with some people, and arguing with the many people who felt the need to get hostile in order to invalidate my negative opinion of parsers. I take people seriously when I can tell they're attempting to be rational.

[Vaunhause]

Well, if you do recall my thread I was only asking for it to be banned in MSQ and leveling content. I don't really have any issues with parsers being used to try to meta game for Savage content. I dunno, maybe make an official parser that's only operational in Savage and on training dummies, and take a harder stance on parser usage everywhere else.

Either way, once I knew mention of parsers was bannable that was the end of that. The rest of the thread was basically me having somewhat civil discussions with some people, and arguing with the many people who felt the need to get hostile in order to invalidate my negative opinion of parsers. I take people seriously when I can tell they're attempting to be rational.

Sure, that's fine. If anything, I'd actually advocate for that idea, for an official parser only being able to be used in 4 scenarios.

Training Dummies (Including the trials, and savage dummies.), Extreme, Savage and Ultimate content.

Dungeon content is nice, because it gives you a quick gauge for your ability, but even so. It's a small sacrifice.