And in 1.20b we'll have...

[SnickleWhiskers]

there is 1.no lorebehind this mount because there is no reason for it to be in this game. its dumb to add other mounts because then its just like any other game, and takes away from the 2.believability of a structured world. 3.it wont be obvious at first but when you eventually see people running around on every monster you fight, flying on a random mob, and 4.bunny hopping to run down the road, it will be stupid.

and alot of people will say this is a cool game. but no one will be able to say this is a 5.believable world.
i was drawn to FFXI above other mmos because the FF series always had this feeling that you were in another world, not so much that you were playing a game. this game is losing that.

i dont care if this is a gift. even if i dont use it, when other people do, it takes me out of this world and puts me in a game

1. Watch the ul'dahn opening cutscene. It's sedated and it breaks out.
2. that's getting meteor casted on it.
3. they're not going with an open world so I can't see them implementing flight for the sake of going from loading screen to loading screen
4. isn't this going to be implemented after they cast meteor?
5. I disagree. It's not SE's fault that you have to change your immersion up to believe you're in a different world and yeah it's a game.

[IveraIvalice]

1. Watch the ul'dahn opening cutscene. It's sedated and it breaks out.
2. that's getting meteor casted on it.
3. they're not going with an open world so I can't see them implementing flight for the sake of going from loading screen to loading screen
4. isn't this going to be implemented after they cast meteor?
5. I disagree. It's not SE's fault that you have to change your immersion up to believe you're in a different world and yeah it's a game.

1. i saw the uldahn cutscene. that makes sense to tame it, not to ride it
2. i dont know what you mean with this meteor thing.
3. they already showed a clip of us riding on an ahriman, and since they seem to be adding all this other stuff like mounts on everything, jumping and swimming, i would bet my money on them adding flight eventually.
4. again i dont get what you mean by the meteor thing.
5. and lastly. its not changing my immersion, its common sense, with bunny hopping, people dont do that in the real world. thats not me, thats common knowledge. swimming i dont have as much of a problem with. and i wouldnt have as much of a problem with the mounts but everyone is gonna be on some mount at all times, thats just not believable. its clear that it is a game, but a good RPG game designer does his best to cover that up

[SnickleWhiskers]

1. i saw the uldahn cutscene. that makes sense to tame it, not to ride it. because after taming they wouldn't use them for other purposes? In real life they used to tame feral horses and re-purpose them for plenty of issues. It doesn't make sense that people ride horses?
5. and lastly. its not changing my immersion, its common sense, with bunny hopping, people dont do that in the real world. thats not me, thats common knowledge. swimming i dont have as much of a problem with. and i wouldnt have as much of a problem with the mounts but everyone is gonna be on some mount at all times, thats just not believable. its clear that it is a game, but a good RPG game designer does his best to cover that up

You bring real life situations into this conversation where you stated that "you want to believe this is a different world". Why?

[Jennestia]

You bring real life situations into this conversation where you stated that "you want to believe this is a different world". Why?

Think about that for a second:

"Believing it's another world" means the world you're experiencing feels like an actual world -- Clearly it would be a different world from our earth in a logical stand point, but the reason people like stories like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and (insert billions of disney stuff) is because even though it's fiction, it's like a 'real world'.

[Reaujien]

Think about that for a second:

"Believing it's another world" means the world you're experiencing feels like an actual world -- Clearly it would be a different world from our earth in a logical stand point, but the reason people like stories like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and (insert billions of disney stuff) is because even though it's fiction, it's like a 'real world'.

^this - times a lot...

I'm pretty sure (or at least, would hope) that when players are using "real" or "real world" in the context of a fantasy game that they're referring to the realism of the fantasy itself (or elements of the fantasy world). Even though games are fantasies there still exist levels of "believability" in them; just like in movies with fictional stories - otherwise they're just straight up bizarre like the shows (and games) you find on Adult Swim o.O