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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    I feel the point OP is making.
    I dont play FFXIV to raid, I play FFXIV to have fun and do many DIFFERENT things. Now, playing WHM feels the same as playing SCH, which used to be so very different in play style.
    So a healer who deals in regens and burst heals with GCDs feels the same as a mitigative healer who relies mostly on oGCDs? Are you even listening to yourself?
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    So a healer who deals in regens and burst heals with GCDs feels the same as a mitigative healer who relies mostly on oGCDs? Are you even listening to yourself?
    When you spend the vast majority of your time not healing, and even when you are healing that healing is just spamming the 2 buttons, yeah, they feel the same. Sure, succor has a different effect from medica/cure III, but you're not building for it, you're not having to proc it, it doesn't feel different when I'm using succor vs when I'm using cure III because they don't have anything that differentiates them besides how much they heal, which is a moot point because they both heal enough. So no, they really don't feel any different, the only major difference I can sort of give is that SCH can spam energy drain.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    When you spend the vast majority of your time not healing, and even when you are healing that healing is just spamming the 2 buttons, yeah, they feel the same. Sure, succor has a different effect from medica/cure III, but you're not building for it, you're not having to proc it, it doesn't feel different when I'm using succor vs when I'm using cure III because they don't have anything that differentiates them besides how much they heal, which is a moot point because they both heal enough. So no, they really don't feel any different, the only major difference I can sort of give is that SCH can spam energy drain.
    There's a major difference between those spells. Cure III can only be used in close quarters (6 yalms) and is a 550 potency heal. Succor is a 180 potency heal with a longer range (15 yalms) that gives shields. You're coming up with a false equivalency to try and make your point, but you're only making yourself look absolutely foolish to everybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    There's a major difference between those spells. Cure III can only be used in close quarters (6 yalms) and is a 550 potency heal. Succor is a 180 potency heal with a longer range (15 yalms) that gives shields. You're coming up with a false equivalency to try and make your point, but you're only making yourself look absolutely foolish to everybody.
    Care to explain how using Cure III/Medica II feels different from using succor then? outside of the few instances where you can actually use the range on Cure III? Because I genuinely do not see it. Yes, that distance is nice, and it can be great for mechanics like Hello World where you're far away from the team, but those instances are very few and far in-between, especially for normal content. You will end up, in most content, using cure III or medica II where you would use succor, achieving the same effect, with the same feeling, only with different buffs.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?