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  1. #11
    Player
    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Just like to add my two cents and agree with OP. Classes need to feel different from each other. I'm not even really actively playing much besides just logging in to keep my house because i'm bored to tears of the game. 5.1 is going to make or break my subscription.
    (7)

  2. #12
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    Rockette's Avatar
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    Rocket Teira
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shyngo View Post
    ^^This.

    And the worst of it is, this game doesn't focus on it's raiding community at all,we get only 4 "weekly-reset trials" per tier, no true raid dungeon, with bosses always on squares/circle arenas. But hey, at least classes are balanced, right?.

    BA was more of a raid over everything else we have so far.
    BA was an amazing instance that was fun and engaging and utterly implemented in the worst way possible. The stress of the portals far outshone anything else I first think of when someone mentions BA.
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  3. #13
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    *looks at every job in this game, and narrows eyes only at WHM and AST*

    I don't see how any of the jobs are similar, outside of how those two heal.
    (6)

  4. #14
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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Well, to be frank i prefer that RDM changes keep being postponed, rather than having SE listen to those players in the dps forum suggesting to remove from RDM what make it feel different : vercure and verraise. So that his damages can be increased for the sake of his performances on 99 fflogs percentile, and become a plain DPS job like BLM and SMN except that you will graphically have some verthings instead of explosions and summons. Just before the same players will complain "SE, why are all mages jobs becoming more and more the same ? Who did ask you to do that ? Please stop !".
    I'm gonna beat a dead horse but that's a perfect example for this argument: AST and the "Balance or nothing" mentality.
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  5. #15
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I'm gonna beat a dead horse but that's a perfect example for this argument: AST and the "Balance or nothing" mentality.
    It's almost like we bring these things on ourselves...
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyngo View Post
    ^^This.

    And the worst of it is, this game doesn't focus on it's raiding community at all,we get only 4 "weekly-reset trials" per tier, no true raid dungeon, with bosses always on squares/circle arenas. But hey, at least classes are balanced, right?.

    BA was more of a raid over everything else we have so far.
    The number players per raid party matters more than the number or type of raids. When there are only 8 spots to fill, balance matters more because it can determine which job doesn't get taken.
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  7. #17
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    Siete Siebenheim
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    The number players per raid party matters more than the number or type of raids. When there are only 8 spots to fill, balance matters more because it can determine which job doesn't get taken.
    Just give a party buff for different classes taken or something.
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  8. #18
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    The Protector
    World
    Aegis
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I would argue that it is not fun playing a job unwanted in raid because other jobs perform the role better. (War in 2.0, PLD in 3.x, Whm in 3.3+, all of 4.x, SAM in 4.x and 5.0, MCH in 4.x)

    Also, jobs have not been homogenized. Roles have. Jobs within a role have to be able to perform the same in certain circumstances or you could be in an instance set up for failure because a certain job isn't there.
    Nah, jobs have been homogenized. To give an example, WAR has pretty much had its HP focused identity stripped away from it.
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  9. #19
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    The Protector
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    Aegis
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I am with you OP, totally and wholeheartedly. If this continues, the game is destined for death...
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Diaval Alucard
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    BLU was their chance to make something fun and not raid oriented. But they turned it into a mindless Atma farm in instanced content. And instead of it being useful in the open world, they gave it the carnival that you only do once and never look back into again.

    Currently the best use of BLU is self destruct for jump puzzles.
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