Has anyone quit healing?

[Vitreus]

The one thing that made me quit healing though is having to focus on something so incredibly boring. I'm all for healers dpsing and I would enjoy it if only it wasn't this incredibly boring one button spam...DPS just feels so much more busy, even classes that are said to be stupidly simple like RDM or DNC. They all have their rotations/ priority systems you need to follow, sure. But getting everything to work out as best as possible while doing mechanics? That's where the fun starts.

What's weird is that I don't remember anyone asking for the dps to be simplified. It's not like it was too hard for us. I know the devs said they wanted us to focus more on healing and less on dps and to that end they simplified it. But that just seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of how the role works. We do damage in our downtime when we don't need to heal. How much downtime we have is determined by how strong our healing is compared to the current content we are doing. As you gear up and get stronger you have more downtime hence dps more. How we dps has no impact at all on how often we dps.

The simplification didn't accomplish their intended goal at all. It just made it feel terrible. I can't imagine leveling a healer from the beginning now. The idea that as soon as you get stone and aero as a conjuror your gameplay for doing damage never changes even when you become a white mage is insane. Or going from an arcanist to a scholar and losing miasma and bane. It would put me off from the classes so badly, I don't think I would have ever chosen to level them. Which sucks because as I've said before healing used to be my favorite way to play the game.

[Marikya]

To be honest, yes.

Despite people saying that AST is fine, I hate the new card system, and I miss the time mage aspect of it.

I never liked WHM that much, and SCH I simply miss the DoTs.

I wont quit, but I find myself more interested in DPS these days

[Anienai]

I quit AST.

[Lodi]

What's weird is that I don't remember anyone asking for the dps to be simplified. It's not like it was too hard for us. I know the devs said they wanted us to focus more on healing and less on dps and to that end they simplified it. But that just seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of how the role works. We do damage in our downtime when we don't need to heal. How much downtime we have is determined by how strong our healing is compared to the current content we are doing. As you gear up and get stronger you have more downtime hence dps more. How we dps has no impact at all on how often we dps.

If they want us to spend more time healing, maybe they should stop giving us new CD heals every single expansion?
Low level content barely requires any healing, and high level has so many CDs that we barely need to hardcast any heals. It's disheartening.

I used to hate leveling healers because low lv dungeons were boring as hell (except with SCH), but now all dungeons feel the same. I was more entertained in 60 content in 4.x than in 80 today.

[Corbeau]

AST is the only healer whose DPS rotation feels decent, and that's because it has constant oGCDs to weave due to the card system.

[Vitreus]

AST is the only healer whose DPS rotation feels decent, and that's because it has constant oGCDs to weave due to the card system.

Personally I'd like to see more support spells with healers where they can buff their allies. Especially if they want to continue down this design philosophy of simplifying damage because after three expansions we suddenly aren't supposed to focus on doing damage anymore. Spells like Afflatus Misery that use a class mechanic like blood lily to nuke the target just feels out of place to me in the role of healer. I know this sentiment probably isn't shared with the rest of the community but I'd rather see it provide say a 5% haste/damage/crit buff to the group.

[YusiKha]

Personally I'd like to see more support spells with healers where they can buff their allies. Especially if they want to continue down this design philosophy of simplifying damage because after three expansions we suddenly aren't supposed to focus on doing damage anymore. Spells like Afflatus Misery that use a class mechanic like blood lily to nuke the target just feels out of place to me in the role of healer. I know this sentiment probably isn't shared with the rest of the community but I'd rather see it provide say a 5% haste/damage/crit buff to the group.

So swapping out spamming a damage skill on the boss with a buff skill on an ally? Sounds like nothing changes, and now our performance is tied to somebody else instead of our own skill.
And what of MSQ content? Just sit there buffing while our chocobo auto attacks everything to death? That sounds boring as hell.

No thanks, I'll take a more interesting damage kit any and every day.

[CrimsonGunner]

So swapping out spamming a damage skill on the boss with a buff skill on an ally? Sounds like nothing changes, and now our performance is tied to somebody else instead of our own skill.
And what of MSQ content? Just sit there buffing while our chocobo auto attacks everything to death? That sounds boring as hell.

No thanks, I'll take a more interesting damage kit any and every day.

he never said remove all dps skills, he just gave a thought that the blood lily could relate to buffs and not just 1 pure damage skill also buffing your chocobo is an idea or even buff yourself and use the 1 damage skill you have to do MSQ cause part of being a support is actually buffing and not being a dps with healing skills.

your performance remain the same cause its mostly up to you.
its on who you give the buff to and when exactly u do it so it kinda is tied to your skills and judgements, if your looking for example you can check with AST.

the point is all healers could use with interesting kits for their downtime ,it doesn't have to be tied to just pure damage skills.

[YusiKha]

he never said remove all dps skills, he just gave a thought that the blood lily could relate to buffs and not just 1 pure damage skill also buffing your chocobo is an idea or even buff yourself and use the 1 damage skill you have to do MSQ cause part of being a support is actually buffing and not being a dps with healing skills.

your performance remain the same cause its mostly up to you.
its on who you give the buff to and when exactly u do it so it kinda is tied to your skills and judgements, if your looking for example you can check with AST.

the point is all healers could use with interesting kits for their downtime ,it doesn't have to be tied to just pure damage skills.

Yes, yes. AST. Let's throw DNC in there too - the two jobs with the most buffing capability...
Also the two classes that are underperforming the most in their roles. Except at 95%ile and above, where DNC suddenly becomes much stronger. The strongest ranged in speedkills because Your allies' use of your buffs is very very important.

AST doesn't even have that though - since WHM and SCH are just so much stronger than it. The only claim AST has is its abundant healing, but that's only when paired with a SCH or you don't need shields because Nocturnal Sect sucks.

[CrimsonGunner]

Yes, yes. AST. Let's throw DNC in there too - the two jobs with the most buffing capability...
Also the two classes that are underperforming the most in their roles. Except at 95%ile and above, where DNC suddenly becomes much stronger. The strongest ranged in speedkills because Your allies' use of your buffs is very very important.

yes for a support your allies use of your buffs is very very important.it increases their performance and their dps especially during their finishers and burst windows. its equal to when you debuff the boss to make him receive more damage,when you do it when dps are at their peak its definitely more meaningful then any other moment.

we are support,we heal when its required and when we don't we buff allies, apply debuff on mobs/bosses and lastly we deal damage.
it isn't a crazy thought that a healer would ask for more utility as you make it out to be.

i am not saying that healers shouldn't have an interesting dps rotation but we are support after all and asking for more utility during healing downtime is legitimate as well as asking for more debuffs to put on.

you do realize AST lost a lot since SE changed all their card to low dps buff. AST may be pale version of its old self but it is still a solid example that support is more then dps.
and at least from what i read,before SHB changes what AST mains loved the most was giving their buffs to their allies right when they needed it and supply them at perfect timing.
all healers jobs suffer right now because of oversimplified and homeganization but it doesn't change the fact that support is also buffing your allies.

also DNC is DPS not support so what the point in comparing to him all of a sudden.
until SE change DNC from DPS to supoort ,its totally unrelevent.