FFXIV/WOW cross over event?

[Reynhart]

FFXIVxWoW is not a win/win because they can't reach the same demographics, they share the same market, and more importantly: are in direct competition with each other in terms of player-base and media praise.

You know you have players that play both games, right ?

Asking for this is the same as asking a crossover of Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat, among other examples.

Other examples like Street Fighter X Tekken ?

[Araxes]

Id absolutely love it!

[Divinemights]

I play both and I still says no. WoW is laughable and not worth the effort of collocation. Every gear piece after T6 can be describe with only two words: lazy and ugly. No significant character you would like to interact with because all of WoW characters after Icecrown has no soul

[Noitems]

Simple counterpoint: Platform availability. FFXIV is available on PS4 and PC. WoW is not on PS4. On that alone, Blizzard loses more than it gains. Even if it is all money inspired. Blizzard has less guarantees of earning as much as SE would from the crossover move.


Never said it isn't plausible. But its not on even fields.

WoW has the mantle of being World of Warcraft. The household name for an MMO that's been popularized in multiple media and is pretty much cemented as THE MMO for years on end since it's release. They really don't have anything to lose profitwise, especially when they continue making money off BFA and now WoW Classic.

Say what you will about both those games, they still rake in the dough for Activision and it's stockholders.

[Mahrze]

WoW has the mantle of being World of Warcraft. The household name for an MMO that's been popularized in multiple media and is pretty much cemented as THE MMO for years on end since it's release. They really don't have anything to lose profitwise, especially when they continue making money off BFA and now WoW Classic.

Say what you will about both those games, they still rake in the dough for Activision and it's stockholders.

Just because I haven't played Wow doesn't mean I am ignorant to it. This doesn't add anything to Blizzard. PSO2 didA "crossover" with FFXIV which only released in japan is back in 2014. They released some in game content and even a fight based on Urth's fount trial. FFXIV hasn't done any content with a nod or allusion to PSO2.

Making money off BFA, Wow classic and other WoW IPs under the umbrella doesn't relate at all with a crossover where both companies likely require a gain, you yourself used examples like Microsoft with Minecraft and the Sony v Disney Spider-man deal, in which those were wins for both parties.

The fact that every Wow player can play FFXIV due to sharing the same platform BUT not every FFXIV player can play Wow since Wow doesn't exist in PS4 version is a huge caveat for a deal between the two.

You know you have players that play both games, right ?

I addressed that already; but sure, Let's put it on repeat. FFXIV has a playerbase that doesn't have access to WoW. And said player-base iirc holds a considerable margin percentage and thus, is a market that Blizzard can't profit from with a WoW collaboration.

Other examples like Street Fighter X Tekken ?

It's interesting people insist in throwing arguments with game examples that are one-time purchases with a limited number of DLC. Even more so when the game's you're asking to do a crossover live off the same economic model, sub time.

I used SF x MK because how that would be very profitable for BOTH but it hasn't happened and likely never will. They are iconic franchises in gaming history and while Tekken 7 has sold more than SFV, Tekken isn't yet as iconic as the two.

[Reynhart]

I addressed that already; but sure, Let's put it on repeat. FFXIV has a playerbase that doesn't have access to WoW.

You realize that most of the playerbase, even the PS4 playerbase, probably has a PC alongside their PS4 ? The fact that they chose to play on their PS4 is irrelevant.

And said player-base iirc holds a considerable margin percentage and thus, is a market that Blizzard can't profit from with a WoW collaboration.

Would you assume that a "considerable margin of PS4" don't own a PC ? Would you assume they didn't have a 3DS for the Yokai Watch event ? Or a PS3 for the FFXIII's event ? Or a TV for the Garo collaboration ? And what do you make of Monster Hunter World playerbase that can't play FFXIV on their XOne ?

It's interesting people insist in throwing arguments with game examples that are one-time purchases with a limited number of DLC.

Funny since you were the one using versus fighting games as an example...

They are iconic franchises in gaming history and while Tekken 7 has sold more than SFV, Tekken isn't yet as iconic as the two.

Tekken has sold more than Mortal Kombat as a whole, and was the most iconic franchise on Sony systems since the PS1. In fact, the franchise also outsold Street Fighter, so it's far from an underdog.

[Mahrze]

You realize that most of the playerbase, even the PS4 playerbase, probably has a PC alongside their PS4 ? The fact that they chose to play on their PS4 is irrelevant.

Would you assume that a "considerable margin of PS4" don't own a PC ? Would you assume they didn't have a 3DS for the Yokai Watch event ? Or a PS3 for the FFXIII's event ? Or a TV for the Garo collaboration ? And what do you make of Monster Hunter World playerbase that can't play FFXIV on their XOne ?

I am chastised over an assumption but then I get a tirade of questions trying to dismiss one. Even more so when you are making an assumtion that PS4 players "probably" have a PC but ok, mate. Throw the barrage.

Funny since you were the one using versus fighting games as an example...

Tekken has sold more than Mortal Kombat as a whole, and was the most iconic franchise on Sony systems since the PS1. In fact, the franchise also outsold Street Fighter, so it's far from an underdog.

Naw, I addressed the same example someone else used for crossover games, but yeah. Totally my bad. And I am aware of the sales Tekken has achieved and know what it represents, but its still not iconic in pop culture.

[Duskane]

cant really use fighting game cross overs as a example because 9 times outta 10 they are completely new games that try to capture what both have
especially with how different MK and SF are to it would just be a mess

while WoW x FF14 would just be some side event that ends up being a glorified Easter egg

also MK been on a worse decline than WoW that series got stale decades ago

[Eli85]

I played WoW for years. My hate for what Blizzard has done to it is fully rational.

Hates on the state of WoW. Plays a game that is literally a clone of WoW.

Checks out.

[Reynhart]

I am chastised over an assumption but then I get a tirade of questions trying to dismiss one.

You get a tirade of questions that show that no past event actually cared if the playerbase actually owned the "other" system. So, even if your assumption was true (Which is pretty doubtful since we're talking about a PC), it has no reason to even matter in the decision.

And I didn't even mention the FF XIV x FF XI event, that put together two games with the same business model, with the second one only playable on PC.