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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobalos View Post
    So after seeing Blizzard send Yoshi a gift to congratulate him for the release of SHB I think a cross over event would be rather awesome.

    Things like a Shadow minion or Frostmourne DRK weapon could make good event items
    (Orc barding anyone?)

    Thoughts?
    Please no...

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    I quite liked my time in WoW, would be cool to have a cross over. Love some of their other games (loved warcraft 3 to death), though I feel their Activision lords or just general company direction has gone a bit "EA-ish" in recent years. Would be special to have one of the iconic weapons and gear like Doomhammer/Frostmourne and Lich King Armor.

    Respecting their origin art but making sure they look fitting in the game world could be interesting though lol. To reduce the whole reminder of the other game aspect though if Blizzard and SE do a cross over maybe they should do non-mmorpg games as the cross over piece (Diablo, FF7, etc). Though I imagine having a relic or chocobo in WoW would do more to remind people of SE games than having a Frostmourne in FFXIV (not saying it wont or has to be that way, just that I imagine because WoW is bigger that more would see SE's stuff).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-02-2019 at 01:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    My thoughts are... this is not Wow so No thanks.
    Why have a collab with the "competition"?

    This is just of my opinion of course feel free to quote me and respond with your angry comments.. lol
    This isn't Yokai Watch but we had a collab for that.

    This isn't Garo but we had a collab for that.

    This isn't Monster Hunter but we had a collab for that.

    I have one question for you, however...have you played WoW? Like, actually played it? Most people I've seen in this game hating on WoW never actually tried it. They just hate it because they can. It was, at least at one time, a pretty great game. Lately? Not so much. There's a reason I cancelled my sub. I honestly wouldn't even consider WoW to be a competitor anymore. But that doesn't change the fact that it was a great game played by millions upon millions of people. A crossover would be neat, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    This isn't Yokai Watch but we had a collab for that.

    This isn't Garo but we had a collab for that.

    This isn't Monster Hunter but we had a collab for that.

    None of those directly compete with FFXIV though. Idc for WoW; never played, doesn't interest me either. But using those three IPs as examples of collabs is a bit moot. Most of those collabs might've been along the lines of "promoting their product in their other IP for mutual gain." Since by my understanding, neither of those IPs step on FFXIV's demographic.

    FFXIV and WoW are in the same market and a collab would basically pit players to make choices between both MMOs, even when players who play both are not scarce.


    It's like asking two big fast food franchises that serve the same consumer base to make a collab.
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    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    FFXIV and WoW are in the same market and a collab would basically pit players to make choices between both MMOs, even when players who play both are not scarce.


    It's like asking two big fast food franchises that serve the same consumer base to make a collab.
    You do know Microsoft owns Mojang and by extension Minecraft yet allows it to be sold for the PS4 and Switch right? A company will absolutely double down on it if it makes money.

    Games like Project x Zone 1&2 also feature collabs with Capcom/Namco/Sega and even Nintendo. They do it as a joint venture so that everyone gets a profit, but also to help deal with each other's licenses.

    Hell even outside games, movies like Who Framed Roger Rabbit featured both Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse on the same screen, and only agreed to it if they both shared the same amount of screen time.

    The possibility is never not out there, it's just both companies need to come to an agreement. Which in most cases is all about the $$$.

    If Yoshi-P and Blizzard are being buddy buddy I'd expect something like it, especially considering the MHW collab only happened because Yoshi went out drinking with the MH prodcuer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    You do know Microsoft owns Mojang and by extension Minecraft yet allows it to be sold for the PS4 and Switch right? A company will absolutely double down on it if it makes money.

    Games like Project x Zone 1&2 also feature collabs with Capcom/Namco/Sega and even Nintendo. They do it as a joint venture so that everyone gets a profit, but also to help deal with each other's licenses.

    Hell even outside games, movies like Who Framed Roger Rabbit featured both Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse on the same screen, and only agreed to it if they both shared the same amount of screen time.

    The possibility is never not out there, it's just both companies need to come to an agreement. Which in most cases is all about the $$$.

    If Yoshi-P and Blizzard are being buddy buddy I'd expect something like it, especially considering the MHW collab only happened because Yoshi went out drinking with the MH prodcuer.

    Outside of the silly "tone", you're not disproving anything and like I said, the IPs both gained from the collabs. Microsoft (I knew btw) did the better choice and used the Minecraft craze in its favor as a publisher, which means they gain from an existing or growing market. No different than SE did with a lot of their prev FF titles going to other platforms like the Switch when they've been Sony exclusives for years.

    The crossover games like X Zone, SVC and the like have a "temporary" share of the market and the millage varies between regions. Same can be said with films. I never said the possibility is not out there. Its one of those things that sound great on paper... and that's about it.

    You've said it yourself (And I am to assume everyone knows it too). Its about money, money that is made at the risk of it being lost. MHW crossover was a win/win. Garo was a win/win. Yokai was a win/win. FFXIVxWoW is not a win/win because they can't reach the same demographics, they share the same market, and more importantly: are in direct competition with each other in terms of player-base and media praise. Asking for this is the same as asking a crossover of Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat, among other examples.
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    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    Outside of the silly "tone", you're not disproving anything and like I said, the IPs both gained from the collabs. Microsoft (I knew btw) did the better choice and used the Minecraft craze in its favor as a publisher, which means they gain from an existing or growing market. No different than SE did with a lot of their prev FF titles going to other platforms like the Switch when they've been Sony exclusives for years.

    The crossover games like X Zone, SVC and the like have a "temporary" share of the market and the millage varies between regions. Same can be said with films. I never said the possibility is not out there. Its one of those things that sound great on paper... and that's about it.

    You've said it yourself (And I am to assume everyone knows it too). Its about money, money that is made at the risk of it being lost. MHW crossover was a win/win. Garo was a win/win. Yokai was a win/win. FFXIVxWoW is not a win/win because they can't reach the same demographics, they share the same market, and more importantly: are in direct competition with each other in terms of player-base and media praise. Asking for this is the same as asking a crossover of Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat, among other examples.
    The point I'm trying to make is that IT DOES NOT MATTER what the playerbase is, they'll still do it if it makes money and if it's for the fans it's a bonus.

    Companies will gladly work together (Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo being the reason I brought up Minecraft) if it ensures a profit for all the parties involved. That's a reason the recent Spider-man movie deal was struck and why Disney had to renegotiate to still make profit off them.

    Money talks, and corporate entities will gladly listen. The big difference here is both teams have reviewed each other, Blizzard considering Thordan EX to be a pinnacle of good raid design, and Yoshi-P clearly throwing his support for Blizzard throughout the years. So they not only gain from a real $$$ profit, but also gain from a publicity standpoint too as they've been chummy for the years despite being direct rivals.

    Also if you want to bring a clear competition in the mix there's been Capcom vs SNK, Street Fighter X Tekken, Tekken 7 featuring Akuma being playable and officially is in the lore, Tekken 7 crossing over King of Fighters and Soulcalibur VI for Samurai Shodown. All of these being direct competitors to each other for YEARS on end and they do it not only for the fans but also for the $$$.

    You need to give more credit to this idea being plausible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    FFXIVxWoW is not a win/win because they can't reach the same demographics, they share the same market, and more importantly: are in direct competition with each other in terms of player-base and media praise.
    You know you have players that play both games, right ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    Asking for this is the same as asking a crossover of Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat, among other examples.
    Other examples like Street Fighter X Tekken ?
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 10-02-2019 at 05:12 PM.
    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    Only if we're packing up all the paissa to send over and we get to smuggle that sweet dreadwake mount back.
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    Having played WoW from late Classic to early Legion.....meh. About the only thing I really miss from the game are a few of my old favorite mounts (mainly the raptors, but I also miss my Bloodbathed Frostbrood Vanquisher). There's just nothing else I'd want from the setting anymore. And I wouldn't trust Blizzard's writers not to foul up their side of a collab somehow.
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