Petition to have the right to post about players in our community

[Masamune1004]

Seriously. Since you're so utterly toothless in your response, SE, why defang us as well?

Exactly, I'd be all against this if the GMs actually did something about it.

[Matsume]

Slander: a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report.

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image.

If you post inended to 'give an individual a negative image' by definition you hath commited defamation and thus slander. I hate to parse semantics, so please, lets not do this again.

Accountability may not be important to you, but it is to me. That's just how it's going to be.

First of all, not once did I say accountability is not important to me - that is an assumption on your part based on a single post of mine (should I remind you that to assume only makes an ASS out of U and ME?)

Also, I've expressed negative sentiments about typical Americanisms myself, and being American, it's really easy to do, but I honestly can't stand when someone on the internet starts throwing it out there as a weight for their point. It's typical of people, and not one nation. That adage is actually a really bad example of this case, imo.

As for the second part, Yes!, you are right that the adage is a really bad example of this case, I whole heartedly agree, but it did not stop the adage from popping up into my head? Why is that? Because Masamune said: "Aww, they took it down? Why do the most fun threads always get deleted ; ;. " Which leads the reader to believe he thought it was fun that you made a thread denouncing another players actions. This is like someone having fun publicly stoning a "witch".

I said the thread was fun, not slandering. Nice assumptions there.

I didn't make an assumption Masamune, you claimed his thread - which intended to give a player a negative image (slander/Defamation)- was fun. Just because you call it X does not mean it isnt Y.

On-Topic: Threads about people behaving this way wouldn't be necessary if the GMs would do their job. When someone goes around harassing others and the person doesn't get banned for it, people need to know that that person is someone who you don't want to be around. If I was a new player and my first party experience ended with me getting harassed, then I reported him and still saw him around, I'd probably quit honestly. Something needs to be done, and if the GMs won't do it, it's up to the players themselves to warn others.

Why do you think a GMs job consists of banning other players for harassment? I can pull up a GM job application right now, and that is not part of the job description. It is your responsibility as a player is to Blacklist someone if they cause you trouble, not cry to a GM to fix every little issue you have with this game.

Furthermore you can post in your LS chat that player X has caused you trouble, and word will spread. If others experience the same issue, they too will blacklist player X and eventually he will find himself all alone. If you want quit because a GM wont do what you think they should do to a player that caused you problems that you refuse to blacklist, then by all means, quit.

Players should be able to warn each other in game without having to resort to a Scarlet Letter thread that could tarnish a players reputation going on into the future. Look another post mentioned, this player could have been having a bad day and might have just been blowing off steam at anyone and everyone around him. Does this really merit a forum thread dedicated to proving he is someone to avoid?

[Viridiana]

Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image.

If you post inended to 'give an individual a negative image' by definition you hath commited defamation and thus slander. I hate to parse semantics, so please, lets not do this again.

Didn't read the rest (because it isn't directed to me and I don't plan on joining the main convo.), but I did have two comments to make here:

1. Has anyone actually used the word "calumny" seriously outside of that one line from Hamlet? >_>

2. Slander requires as part of its definition that the statement be a false one. It literally isn't slander if it's true.

[syntaxlies]

i dont think the forums should be a place to mass blacklist people. just blacklist him in game. others will do the same if its that bad.

[Matsume]

I see no problem with this. Since SE refuses to do anything about botters and cheaters why shouldn't we at least know who they are publicly?

Seriously. Since you're so utterly toothless in your response, SE, why defang us as well?

This is slander.

You have no way of proving that someone is "botting or cheating" other than to make an assumption. Don't get mad because a player has a turbo control automatically pressing enter on standard synths while they watch a movie in windowed mode (i have never done this).

Furthermore to call SE toothless and to claim that they hath defanged you is utter nonsense. In reality SE has given you the power to blacklist a player. If the very SIGHT of a said blacklisted player is enough to make you rage quit then go ahead. END OF THREAD.

[Matsume]

Didn't read the rest (because it isn't directed to me and I don't plan on joining the main convo.), but I did have two comments to make here:

1. Has anyone actually used the word "calumny" seriously outside of that one line from Hamlet? >_>

2. Slander requires as part of its definition that the statement be a false one. It literally isn't slander if it's true.

1. Made me LOL

2. Slander = defamation = a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individuala negative image.

OP can in all honesty believe the claim to be true, and maybe the claim WAS true for ONE DAY. That does not mean that person will ALWAYS act that way. His post intended to give a player a negative image = defamatory = slander. nuff said srsly guise...

Everyone has their own truth.

[Vackashken]

This is slander.

You have no way of proving that someone is "botting or cheating" other than to make an assumption. Don't get mad because a player has a turbo control automatically pressing enter on standard synths while they watch a movie in windowed mode (i have never done this).

Furthermore to call SE toothless and to claim that they hath defanged you is utter nonsense. In reality SE has given you the power to blacklist a player. If the very SIGHT of a said blacklisted player is enough to make you rage quit then go ahead. END OF THREAD.

....lol. For a second I thought you were kidding but the fact you're not makes it even more hilarious.

[HiirNoivl]

I see no problem with this. Since SE refuses to do anything about botters and cheaters why shouldn't we at least know who they are publicly?

Seriously. Since you're so utterly toothless in your response, SE, why defang us as well?

Because I would be on the unofficial list of botters. I get accused of botting on weekly basis by random people who think they are the police of the server. Not to mention that I personally, as you are quite aware, have been unjustly targeted more than once for character assassination.

[syntaxlies]

just wanted to add that i hope they take this thread down to for your sake. this thread really make you look bad just for making it and i wouldn't want to play with someone in game that does this sort of thing.

[Jinko]

From what I'm aware if someone is being that rude in game it should be no problem to get them banned or at least warned by a GM.