Petition to have the right to post about players in our community

[HiirNoivl]

I see no problem with this. Since SE refuses to do anything about botters and cheaters why shouldn't we at least know who they are publicly?

Seriously. Since you're so utterly toothless in your response, SE, why defang us as well?

Because I would be on the unofficial list of botters. I get accused of botting on weekly basis by random people who think they are the police of the server. Not to mention that I personally, as you are quite aware, have been unjustly targeted more than once for character assassination.

[syntaxlies]

i dont think the forums should be a place to mass blacklist people. just blacklist him in game. others will do the same if its that bad.

[syntaxlies]

just wanted to add that i hope they take this thread down to for your sake. this thread really make you look bad just for making it and i wouldn't want to play with someone in game that does this sort of thing.

[Jinko]

From what I'm aware if someone is being that rude in game it should be no problem to get them banned or at least warned by a GM.

[Vackashken]

Because I would be on the unofficial list of botters. I get accused of botting on weekly basis by random people who think they are the police of the server. Not to mention that I personally, as you are quite aware, have been unjustly targeted more than once for character assassination.

Fair enough I suppose but I am sick of seeing people we very well know bot get away with it and nothing happen. Especially when I am paying for this train wreck of a game. The fact that - somebody - we both know character was rising and falling for 8 HOURS straight because he fell asleep (and ran out of materials in his bot cycle) says it all.

I know people reported him from the hubbub of flak that was flying around in shouts and tells and nothing happened. At all. In even the smallest way. So I stand by my previous statement - SE is toothless in their response. Albeit it I am inclined to agree with you a bit more (seeing as what happened with you about aholes trying to sully your name), it still disgust me that nobody does anything about teh rampant cheating going on in the game.

Seems like someone should.

[Blitz0309]

Fair enough I suppose but I am sick of seeing people we very well know bot get away with it and nothing happen. Especially when I am paying for this train wreck of a game. The fact that - somebody - we both know character was rising and falling for 8 HOURS straight because he fell asleep (and ran out of materials in his bot cycle) says it all.

I know people reported him from the hubbub of flak that was flying around in shouts and tells and nothing happened. At all. In even the smallest way. So I stand by my previous statement - SE is toothless in their response. Albeit it I am inclined to agree with you a bit more (seeing as what happened with you about aholes trying to sully your name), it still disgust me that nobody does anything about teh rampant cheating going on in the game.

Seems like someone should.

People will eventually get caught. But wanting to post peoples names on the forums is like asking for permissions to pull over speeders. Not that botting is as acceptable as (at least how i view) speeding (though not like 20+ over).. but you get the idea. There are authorities in game to take care of issues like this, despite how ineffective they may be.

However even if a guy is bot crafting, why does it matter to you? I suppose it makes the work you've put in to craft less meaningful.. but doesn't power leveling in essence do the same thing? Not trying to argue, and definitely not defending botting... more just wondering where the police the others mentality is coming from.

[Vackashken]

People will eventually get caught. But wanting to post peoples names on the forums is like asking for permissions to pull over speeders. Not that botting is as acceptable as (at least how i view) speeding (though not like 20+ over).. but you get the idea. There are authorities in game to take care of issues like this, despite how ineffective they may be.

However even if a guy is bot crafting, why does it matter to you? I suppose it makes the work you've put in to craft less meaningful.. but doesn't power leveling in essence do the same thing? Not trying to argue, and definitely not defending botting... more just wondering where the police the others mentality is coming from.

Why does it matter? Where does it stop? So bot crafting is OK (not that you're saying it personally)? So is speed hacks ok? Bot farming? Bot claiming NMs? Rules are rules and cheating is cheating. You don't just pick one you personally don't like or have a preference for.

[Blitz0309]

Why does it matter? Where does it stop? So bot crafting is OK (not that you're saying it personally)? So is speed hacks ok? Bot farming? Bot claiming NMs? Rules are rules and cheating is cheating. You don't just pick one you personally don't like or have a preference for.

No, anything that gives an unfair advantage as to how the game is designed to be played should be discouraged/punished. As well as being able to obtain anything without playing. But WE aren't the ones who are supposed to do that. Report them ingame.. leave it off the forums.

Though its sort of funny when you think about it.. as botting is just something sitting there taking place of a person but still "playing" the game as it was designed.

While things like powerleveling allow you to bypass the way the game is supposed to be played and gain exp faster.

I guess the fact that a 3rd party program is used is why people go off on it.

[Jinko]

I guess the fact that a 3rd party program is used is why people go off on it.

This is the thing, using a bot, using a autofire controller and spamming enter are all basically the same thing, I think a lot of it is down to jealousy or the moral high ground, I'm not condoning the use of bots but I don't see much difference especially when SE make it easy for people to use them.

The problem is very much with SE and not the user.

[Jinko]

Especially when I am paying for this train wreck of a game.

If the game is such a train wreck why are you paying for it ?