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    Samsta's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verlyn View Post
    I feel this dps vs. not dps debate is missing the forest for the trees. It's not that people want to do nothing but heal, it's that people want to play a support role but there is precious little support to perform when there's no damage coming out. Unfortunately, FFXIV has stripped its battle system to the bone in the name of raw balance and parity, so there is precious-little room for utility buffing, debuffing or CC or mob management-- things you'd find in a typical support-based toolkit-- that would allow healers an option other than being a "green dps."

    Unfortunately, that is reality. In this game, as it is set up now, if you're not healing, then you are dpsing.
    If we had a healer that couldn't use any dps abilities while it was healing and the downtime would be filled with meaningful buffing I would play it asap, I don't particularly enjoy doing dps as a healer but I dislike not doing anything and standing still even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsta View Post
    If we had a healer that couldn't use any dps abilities while it was healing and the downtime would be filled with meaningful buffing I would play it asap, I don't particularly enjoy doing dps as a healer but I dislike not doing anything and standing still even more.
    If you're just spamming your 'buff' gcd on the strongest ally what difference is that to spamming a damage skill on the boss? How would a class with no way to damage do solo duties and overworld activities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YusiKha View Post
    If you're just spamming your 'buff' gcd on the strongest ally what difference is that to spamming a damage skill on the boss? How would a class with no way to damage do solo duties and overworld activities?
    Notice I said meaningful buffing, you just assumed that it would be like that. No, I meant that if we would have meaningful and interesting things to do during downtime it would be better, I didn't even say it has to buff damage. The point is that at least myself I don't particularly enjoy doing dps during the downtime, but it's the only thing to do. The problem is that a lot of healing is not required and during long downtimes we either have two things to do 1. dps 2. nothing. I actually remember back when healers doing damage wasn't in the meta I enjoyed applying stoneskins to people during downtime, I dunno maybe that's just me but I like playing support way more and that's why I picked a healer back in 2.0. Now I am not saying that is the solution, that shit wouldn't fly today, but I found it more enjoyable.

    EDIT: notice I also said "while it was healing" implying that you could choose between healing and doing dps beforehand but that wasn't nowhere near the point, it was an example meant to illustrate different things to do during downtime.
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    Last edited by Samsta; 09-24-2019 at 04:32 PM.