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    Heilstos's Avatar
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    Marius Heilstos
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    It's only 50, actually. 100 would make it worth using.
    Collective Unconscious has in the longest case 11 ticks (18s + 15s = 33s) so you have a 550 HP heal. With 100 HP HoT you have 1100HP thats.... Your reason is with the 100 HP to hold the bubble short and have a 500HP. But so the skill does not work.

    I know here comes the question: And now Marius how can the tank surivie the 15s while holding the bubble and why is Collective Unconscious so weak now?

    First of all you have to be in Diurnal you want to heal not midigate here:

    - Aspected Helios + Celestial Opposition (copicat from AH)^^ + Aspected Benefic (in the OGCD) Aspected Benefic = for 15s-12s you have 600HP Heal (the direct Heal from all 3 spells) and 450HP for 4 time (not five because the GCD use from AP and AB^^)
    and granting 10% damage reduction. I know its not great stand there but that is how the skill works and its uncool for raiding but that is like the skill works. Hold it or let it
    -> Now to the reson why is Collective Unconscious weak:
    With the new Celestial Opposition the AST get a new HoT (not creativ but hey a new hot) so Collective Unconscious have to lose the HP from 150. Or you heal much with stading there. The only thing that change is that with the new CO + CI make the same HP like the old CU. Only the people that "snapshot" the bubble lose HPS but thats okay in the thinking to kick of the 10% reduction anyways.
    The HPS is the same like it was in SB (in the time you stand and hold the blue fir.... bubble). After that 15s (in the best case) you can heal again.
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    YusiKha's Avatar
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    Lost Skywatcher
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Heilstos View Post
    Collective Unconscious has in the longest case 11 ticks (18s + 15s = 33s) so you have a 550 HP heal. With 100 HP HoT you have 1100HP thats.... Your reason is with the 100 HP to hold the bubble short and have a 500HP. But so the skill does not work.
    To hold it for its entire duration means doing nothing for 15 seconds. You know what else you could do with 15 seconds? Cast Helios 6 times for 1980 potency. People only 'flash' CU because holding it is stupidly inefficient at damage, and even healing.
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    Marius Heilstos
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    yusi thats hard to say. You shines in the blue light what do you want more.

    That is the deal SE give with Collective Unconscious. Deal or no deal.^^
    I am a great fan to say that you, as AST, have to stand under the bubble to hold them. ONLY stand there but can cast under the bubble. But hey I said this since 3 years and you see what happend ^^

    greedings

    P.S: 6 times helios is not cheap xP But I agree.^^ I make only the bubble if all cards are played and all other healing CDs (until Celestial Opposition) are on cooldown. I dont want to use so much Benefic II if 15s blue shining+ Hots help me there aswell. I konw that is not the best choose to make but it helps in Dungons^^
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Heilstos View Post
    yusi thats hard to say. You shines in the blue light what do you want more.

    That is the deal SE give with Collective Unconscious. Deal or no deal.^^
    I am a great fan to say that you, as AST, have to stand under the bubble to hold them. ONLY stand there but can cast under the bubble. But hey I said this since 3 years and you see what happend ^^

    greedings

    P.S: 6 times helios is not cheap xP But I agree.^^ I make only the bubble if all cards are played and all other healing CDs (until Celestial Opposition) are on cooldown. I dont want to use so much Benefic II if 15s blue shining+ Hots help me there aswell. I konw that is not the best choose to make but it helps in Dungons^^
    Yeah, I always think that you use CU when your MP is low and LD is still on CD. However, the bubble area imo is too small to justify "doing nothing" for the full duration.
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    Kuwago Riegan
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    TBH, I thought that we were going to get a new trait that makes CU deployable similar to Asylum and Sacred Soil. What's worse is that they nerfed CU without giving it a buff to compensate, everyone knows that CU was the weakest of all bubbles since you are stuck in 'casting' it and the very second you move it goes away.

    I was wondering if it could be a burst instead similar to how CO applies and just gives the damage reduction and HoT on a duration.
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