"New game plus - quests will have no rewards..."

[Jonnycbad]

No EXP for New Game Plus because it would be too easy/quick to do since you have flying mounts and aetherytes for all these zones.

[Vahlnir]

No EXP for New Game Plus because it would be too easy/quick to do since you have flying mounts and aetherytes for all these zones.

Not having flying or aetherytes doesn't make it a challenge at all. Quicker? Sure, but there's no challenge in running around on the ground for extended periods. That said, I think the open world should be more dangerous.

[Chalbee]

Maybe I'm missing something and this is just a convention I'm unfamiliar with because outside of FFXIV and, like, Animal Crossing I don't really play videogames, but what is the "+" in NG+ if it offers no rewards or benefits? New game "plus" would seem to imply that it's "over and above" simply starting a new game, no? I don't necessarily feel strongly that it should/should not have any *specific* rewards, but it seems like there should be...something? I love the story too, but not enough to do it all again for no reward(s).

Happy for the people that wanted it though!

[Rufalus]

what is the "+" in NG+ if it offers no rewards or benefits?

True. It's actually less rewarding than starting a new character, that way you'd see the story again AND get all of the rewards which you could transfer back to your main character (gil, most equipment, other assorted stuff). If NG+ is truly zero reward, not even a title, then it sounds super niche like only for role playing that your original character is reliving the story.

[Melichoir]

Maybe I'm missing something and this is just a convention I'm unfamiliar with because outside of FFXIV and, like, Animal Crossing I don't really play videogames, but what is the "+" in NG+ if it offers no rewards or benefits? New game "plus" would seem to imply that it's "over and above" simply starting a new game, no? I don't necessarily feel strongly that it should/should not have any *specific* rewards, but it seems like there should be...something? I love the story too, but not enough to do it all again for no reward(s).

Happy for the people that wanted it though!

NG+ Literally means New Game Plus. Instead of starting a "New Game" (aka start from scratch), you start a new game in a special mode. In some iterations of this, it means having gear/level/items that you accumulated in the previous game at the start of the new one. In our FFXIV case, were getting something akin to that. The 'Plus' is having our characters current iteration available in MSQ where it shouldnt be possible? So gear/Levels pretty much. It boils down to being able to replay the game with what youve already accrued. If that doesnt fit your fancy, well thats fine. For a lot of people in this thread, the exp thing is irrelevant. They do want to replay MSQ for the sake of MSQ.

[Videra]

Square Enix makes something pointless and people try to defend it for some reason, news at eleven. See ya'll when this 'feature' is just like BLU.

[Tsalmaveth]

Square Enix makes something pointless and people try to defend it for some reason, news at eleven. See ya'll when this 'feature' is just like BLU.

If you don't care about the story, that's bully for you? It's for the people who do. And they don't need exp/carrots/rewards/achievements to do it? They literally wanted a way to go back and enjoy the story and have been asking for ways to do it that don't include having to re-roll alts over and over to do so.

It. Isn't. A. Useless. Pointless. Feature. To. The. People. Who. Have. Been. Asking. For. It. For. Years.

[Melichoir]

True. It's actually less rewarding than starting a new character, that way you'd see the story again AND get all of the rewards which you could transfer back to your main character (gil, most equipment, other assorted stuff). If NG+ is truly zero reward, not even a title, then it sounds super niche like only for role playing that your original character is reliving the story.

Hmm less rewarding? How so? You think that people play MSQ just for the quest rewards? I mean I played it cause it was fun and story driven. Rewards were secondary.

Starting a new character is something you can do, but that comes with caveats. Any player bound items you wont have access too, so count out any events that youve worked on. Youll ahve to do quite a lot of things that maybe you didnt like to do (starting a new toon with 0 access to aetherytes is annoying). Kiss mounts, glamour, gear goodbye too. Gotta refarm those. Retainers and Titles too. But you get to level your character again! And get that gil and outdated materia and gear....yay? It's not like you got a millions upon millions of gil from MSQ. You get a few hundred K at most for ARR+HW MSQ directly; maybe a million at most. You can spend an afternoon farming some Primals and earn that faster. Count out your Friends list and FC and Linkshells too. Those are toon specific.

What if you want to play the DRK questline? Well, gotta do all of ARR and unlock DRK, then relevel it. Or replay the Alexander Questline?

Yeah, starting a new character isnt quite the fix that you might think it is. You literally start from scratch. If thats your thing, more power to you. But for some of us, we want to replay the story. Thats what were on board for.

Square Enix makes something pointless and people try to defend it for some reason, news at eleven. See ya'll when this 'feature' is just like BLU.

Thank you for the insightful commentary! You heard it here folks. SE made something someone doesnt like, so its pointless, and anyone who likes the feature is just 'defending it for some reason'. Tell ya what, I had fun with BLU, even if its not a full class. Much like I enjoy things like GS, or Savage and Expert, or Hildebrand. All these things are 'pointless' according to someone or another, but theyre still content and features some people like. It's like snobbery at its finest - "if I cant find enjoyment in it, it just must be impossible for anyone else too."

Derp, there goes the snark again.

[DynnDiablos]

Square Enix makes something pointless and people try to defend it for some reason, news at eleven. See ya'll when this 'feature' is just like BLU.

It isn't hurting anyone dude. It may be pointless to you, but plenty of people will replay the story. No one using it or tons using it, it doesn't detract from the main game whatsoever.

[DynnDiablos]

True. It's actually less rewarding than starting a new character, that way you'd see the story again AND get all of the rewards which you could transfer back to your main character (gil, most equipment, other assorted stuff). If NG+ is truly zero reward, not even a title, then it sounds super niche like only for role playing that your original character is reliving the story.

Many of us have no interest in leveling from 1 again. I sure don't!