If you are going to do a Live Letter

[Mahrze]

Aimi-san, who has been acting as the translator on the previous LLs that weren't done from a japanese event, is not a community member.

And about the other stuff, what did you want, the full patch notes already? They have been announcing patches like this for years, and it works. At least they show us what's about to come ahead of time in a more personal way, unlike other MMO devs, and we always get the provisional patch notes ahead of the actual patch. Also, and this is what I was talking about, many of us enjoy the more relaxed vibe and the conversations that they have outside of the scripted things -which is not something specific to Taro, Saito and Okabe-, which would be lost if they did what you asked for (which is exactly what I quoted from your other post, where you said that you would rather have a "Nintendo Direct"-like format than the current one). In fact, when the LL gets translated on site, part of that gets lost already due to the lack of flow and the less improvisation. We reached a compromise already, but apparently that's not enough for some.

So just because they have done it for years, it can't be considered as an issue, even more so when they have a growing audience that might not be keen to their practices? Again, if you saw the rest of my follow ups, I address the "banter" section as a different option akin to a pod cast or similar format. But lets lose ourselves in throwing extremes on the table for the sake of argument.


Patch notes even on full release are still kept ambiguous at times due to "reasons" and I am ok with it. My issue is that we get 2 LLPs per patch that amount to 4~ hrs of content which could be presented in better formats to save them time, last LLP with the QA Yoshi looked like he didn't even want to be there anymore. They are nice but they definitely should consider other formats to deliver content that doesn't put so much pressure on one single person.


The reason why I suggest something like a direct is that it would present things in a format that can be enjoyed, allow them for translations and not be so taxing to one or two individuals.

[Yshnal]

So just because they have done it for years, it can't be considered as an issue, even more so when they have a growing audience that might not be keen to their practices? Again, if you saw the rest of my follow ups, I address the "banter" section as a different option akin to a pod cast or similar format. But lets lose ourselves in throwing extremes on the table for the sake of argument.


Patch notes even on full release are still kept ambiguous at times due to "reasons" and I am ok with it. My issue is that we get 2 LLPs per patch that amount to 4~ hrs of content which could be presented in better formats to save them time, last LLP with the QA Yoshi looked like he didn't even want to be there anymore. They are nice but they definitely should consider other formats to deliver content that doesn't put so much pressure on one single person.


The reason why I suggest something like a direct is that it would present things in a format that can be enjoyed, allow them for translations and not be so taxing to one or two individuals.

So, basically you say that they look tired (they do), but you want them to do even more work. The things that you suggest would add even more workload for everyone currently involved on the LLs (which is not just one or two individuals, anyway): more thinking, more planning, more writing, more translating, more talking... And for what? Because some people don't have enough with knowing what the patch will bring when the devs feel confident enough to talk about it? Because these same people don't agree with the current format that many others like and enjoy, and that have liked and enjoyed for years (this is what I said, not that they can't change it simply because they've done it for years)? Keep in mind that everything that we see on the LLs is still WIP, that's why sometimes they go into more details -if they're sure that it will be like that once the patch drops- and sometimes they don't. We know that they work on a tight schedule, and we have seen that most of the time they can barely make it in time (and that's when they do). We are not kept in the dark, we always know the full details of the patches before we get to play them, with the LL, the patch website, the dev blog, and the provisional patch notes.

Almost no other developer does this amount of communication about what they're working on (DE does live streams on Twitch for Warframe too, and they release exactly the same amount of information that SE does on the LLs, and sometimes less). Do you know what would be easier for Yoshi-P and company's health? To not do any of this, and just do what everyone else does: a couple of blog posts here and there and call it a day. But they want to communicate personally with the players, and instead of appreciating it people keep demanding more and more. This all started because the devs dared to attend the Tokyo Game Show and not translate every little detail, despite the actual patch information -that everyone else got the same way- being in perfect english, and despite the previous LLs and events (like the lore stream with the lead writers) having Aimi-san translating everything in real time. But it seems that people conveniently forget about that. Being at a japanese event with limited time and a live non-english speaking crowd, and not translate every minor thing right there and right now is terrible for some, it seems. Next time they should IP ban the stream on the second half, as that might make those people happy (seeing how some advocated for the removal of the LLs and just do a pre-recorded thing -for an event nonetheless-, I guess that making them unable to watch would be a solution /s).

[Deceptus]

last LLP with the QA Yoshi looked like he didn't even want to be there anymore. .

And that's not the first time he has looked like he doesn't want to do them.

[Gula]

And that's not the first time he has looked like he doesn't want to do them.

People's expressions and "how they look" is entirely subjective. Especially when people with autism can outright not pick up on certain things or social quirks.

[Fawkes]

So just because they have done it for years, it can't be considered as an issue, even more so when they have a growing audience that might not be keen to their practices?

That growing audience will get used to it.

Also this Live Letter was an oddity, talking place at 9:00PM PT on a Saturday so maybe new players in America got the misconception that it was airing at prime time for them on purpose, but they typically happen at like 3:00AM PT when the majority of Americans are sleeping and I assume Europeans are mostly at work/school around then, so having live translation for the handful of insomniacs/layabouts able to tune in doesn't really seem worthwhile.

[JunseiKei]

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All I know is that for the largest part, Live Letters have been entertaining and insightful, allowing us to get a sneak peak for what's to come, gossip and get hype over.

These last two LLs, however, have been an utter bust (subjective).

It made me question why I was staying up until 1AM+ EST (later for most LLs) for just "it's a secret" on the primal and ultimate raids and everything that would have been interesting be completely in Japanese. We already knew QoL changes were coming to gathering at least. "Just read the [unofficial] translations." Yeah. I can - but I could have gotten sleep and not feel a bit chaffed at the same time had I known that's all the recent LLs, and maybe going forward, are going to be (after all, once is an out-layer, two in a row is concerning and three will be a trend).

I'm not even being entitled and asking for something that's completely out of the blue or beyond what they could do. At least, I don't think I am. The LLs do eventually get officially translated and posted, meaning the work gets done [at some point] anyway.

[Kaedan]

I just find it bad too that we dont at least get a full english translation.

We do. We just don't get the full translation of everything said live. We get all the important information live the day of the live letter in the form of slides.

That's what makes all this entitled whinging so funny... people are complaining about not having translations for useless (if somewhat funny) banter. Everything said by Yoshida, Morbol, Saito-san or Yoko Taro that was important was on the slides. Everything else was just essentially small talk and jokes.

This is a 17 page monstrosity about absolutely nothing. Apparently all the people not doing Savage (or who have cleared it) are bored and can't find anything better to do.

[Alleo]

I honestly dont care if you call me whiney just because I want to have all the informations that one side of the playerbase gets and the other dont. The slides are nice but Yoshida often says something more to it. Sometimes he explains it more deeply or talks about how this and that dont apply. Stuff that would be lost if we only had the slides. And pure fan translations are great but can have mistakes too which then gives people wrong impressions on stuff.

There was a time where we got at least some posts by the community team as the lifeletter was going on but even that was changed into something that will come out way later.

[Kaedan]

The slides are nice but Yoshida often says something more to it. Sometimes he explains it more deeply or talks about how this and that dont apply. Stuff that would be lost if we only had the slides.

Nope. Trust me, I watch the LLs and I understand Japanese. He doesn't really go any deeper into detail. In fact, in some cases he actually ends up saying less about it than the slides do (he often has to be reminded of the info on the slides).

Again, all the important, pertinent info is on the slides.

And again, we DO get a more or less full translation of the LLs a little while later. Generally not more than a week. Which is perfectly fine, since none of the extra stuff is important.

[TalithaSolarien]

And again, we DO get a more or less full translation of the LLs a little while later. Generally not more than a week. Which is perfectly fine, since none of the extra stuff is important.

You mean like the last Live Letter where the digest came out one month latter (and on the date of the patch discussed in it) ?
That is not "a little while later".