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    ownagepuffs's Avatar
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    Nasir Amari
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    Brynhildr
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    I'm confused. At the start of the Expansion I saw a lot of complaining from MNKs and now their supposed to be one of the top DPS but I sometimes still see MNK's complain about the job.

    WTH has happened with this class while I wasn't looking and why do people still complain about it considering it was the kicked dog for 2 expansions(One of them being their 'own poster' expansion)?
    As I understand it.

    Before QOL buffs: MNK still didn't have the QOL the community had been asking for. Numbers were still really good, no one noticed because no one played the class.

    After QOL Buffs: With Form Shift and Riddle Changes, all the Greased lightning maintenance skills feel really out of place in their kit. All the monk's big payoff moves are not practical so you're using the exact same rotation from forever ago. The numbers are great, but the job hasn't evolved at all from ARR.
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ownagepuffs View Post
    As I understand it.

    Before QOL buffs: MNK still didn't have the QOL the community had been asking for. Numbers were still really good, no one noticed because no one played the class.

    After QOL Buffs: With Form Shift and Riddle Changes, all the Greased lightning maintenance skills feel really out of place in their kit. All the monk's big payoff moves are not practical so you're using the exact same rotation from forever ago. The numbers are great, but the job hasn't evolved at all from ARR.
    I'd argue that by the end of Stormblood the job had evolved but then it was regressed in Shadowbringers.At end of stormblood we had tornado kick in our opener because of the riddle of wind changes.We could also use it in our rotations due to the lower cd on pb.
    Stormblood monk was quite strong but some of the damage buffs were given to ducktape the overlaying issues of the job which they had promised to deal with in Shadowbringers.WHat we got instead in Shadowbringers was a dumbed down version of monk on steroids.Weaving isnt really a thing we have to do anymore and you're there now just doing a static rotation while waiting to be able to hit an extra button every now and again.
    Stormblood monk was erally busy.Shadowbringer monk is nearly an autopilot.
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    Lavitz Orlandeau
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    I'd argue that by the end of Stormblood the job had evolved but then it was regressed in Shadowbringers.At end of stormblood we had tornado kick in our opener because of the riddle of wind changes.We could also use it in our rotations due to the lower cd on pb.
    Stormblood monk was quite strong but some of the damage buffs were given to ducktape the overlaying issues of the job which they had promised to deal with in Shadowbringers.WHat we got instead in Shadowbringers was a dumbed down version of monk on steroids.Weaving isnt really a thing we have to do anymore and you're there now just doing a static rotation while waiting to be able to hit an extra button every now and again.
    Stormblood monk was erally busy.Shadowbringer monk is nearly an autopilot.
    So it's power is stupidly high but isn't that fun to actually play by the sounds of it.
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    So it's power is stupidly high but isn't that fun to actually play by the sounds of it.
    Well when you are job thats supposed to be based off maximizing damage from positionals hence the justification for higher damage some people are trying to defend and then you go look at a 3 min window and see on average that only 35 seconds of that time you need to do actual positionals.
    Monk needs a serious nerf or rework.Main people defending it how OP it is probably havent mained monk for a long time or are enjoying the mssive dps advantage for raids.
    If we start useing monk to gauge how much other jobs need to be buffed it will ruin the game and make it easy mode because ALL jobs will end up being broken.
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