Can SCH get its bugs fixed?

[EaMett]

Posting this here because the content of the healer sub forum doesn’t seem to get passed onto the dev team consistently given how the most recent live letter had the devs saying “what sch issues?” Even though we’ve been flooding the healing forum with these issues since launch day.

Some of these are bugs, some of them are regressions:

• galvanize is absorbing the damage before catalyze. There’s no way this was intended design since the whole point in the first place should have been to be able to deploy off the tanks (in the current situation you can’t)
  
• using any fairy abilities before summoning seraph or dissipating your fairy will put the skill on cooldown without actually triggering the heal. This is even more of an issue because of the following point which is a regression
  
• very poor reactivity of the fairy. At the end of SB this was actually working better than ever and the new pet design has been a step back. It’s because embrace is instant now so you almost always need to wait on your fairy gcd before the queued skill launches. Combine this with dissipation or summoning seraph and you need to wait a significant amount before you can use these skills back to back with your fairy heals. It’s made even worse from the fact we’re pushed into forced double weaves from the low ruin II potency (the point being we definitely can’t double weave fairy skills and dissipation/summon) there are some workarounds, sometimes you just need to clip, it’s just clunky overall and a step back from what we had before.

Thank you for your time, I feel like I’m forgetting something but I’ll just edit if I remember.

[rachcouture]

The state of healers right now hurts, especially as an omnihealer main. That no one on the dev team seems to care leaves me feeling so hopeless that I've more or less given up on them every doing right by this role.

[MrKusakabe]

And I thought it was me mashing my fairy's AoE heal and it would simply not happen until it "randomly" does.
In general, my Selene is like a dog on a sugar rush: I have to repeat 10x what I want her to do and then she disappears in the fights and camouflages herself in the nowhere, just to get blasted in to the corner of the boss arena and I waste my stuff or out of range issues make it so unneccesarily hard. Not to mention that I often overheal because Selene and me think to heal the same person. I miss the clear indicator (arrows) that Selene is doing something. For a profession that has to count on a pet, the current situation is like playing on hardmode for no reason as Scholar.

[Seraphor]

- galvanize is absorbing the damage before catalyze. There’s no way this was intended design since the whole point in the first place should have been to be able to deploy off the tanks (in the current situation you can’t)

I'm not understanding you here.

I can only see the differentiation between these being it's use for Deployment Tactics.
As Catalyse is the 'bonus' shield, it kinda makes sense that you'll get through the 'base' shield first, otherwise you've got loads more time to use Deployment Tactics.
I'm not sure what it is you 'can't' do here, you just need to use DT asap, as you always have.

[Billythepancake]

I'm not understanding you here.

I can only see the differentiation between these being it's use for Deployment Tactics.
As Catalyse is the 'bonus' shield, it kinda makes sense that you'll get through the 'base' shield first, otherwise you've got loads more time to use Deployment Tactics.
I'm not sure what it is you 'can't' do here, you just need to use DT asap, as you always have.

Yeah huh the problem is, you have to wait a second or two before deploy, otherwise it just spreads nothing. And in that second or two the tank has taken an auto, meaning you didn't spread the best shield you could. Even if that wasn't a problem, you have time to use a deploy before your GCDs are up, so that's when you would WANT to deploy, since it would either negate clipping entirely, or at least severely reduce it. Instead now we're either forced to clip broil, or use another ruin II to weave it in.

[Havenchild]

All valid annoyances. I'd like to add personal pet peeve of mine which is the fairy (previously placed) does not respawn post dissipation at it's initial location but instead spawns on you in "heel" mode.

Feels like a missed opportunity there.

[Seraphor]

Yeah huh the problem is, you have to wait a second or two before deploy, otherwise it just spreads nothing. And in that second or two the tank has taken an auto, meaning you didn't spread the best shield you could.

Ah, in that case the issue is the delay in shield deployment, not the order they're used in.

[ValyrianBlood]

Yeah huh the problem is, you have to wait a second or two before deploy, otherwise it just spreads nothing. And in that second or two the tank has taken an auto, meaning you didn't spread the best shield you could. Even if that wasn't a problem, you have time to use a deploy before your GCDs are up, so that's when you would WANT to deploy, since it would either negate clipping entirely, or at least severely reduce it. Instead now we're either forced to clip broil, or use another ruin II to weave it in.

SO MUCH THIS!
And I thought I was doing something wrong/going mad...It actually works if u wait a second but it used to spread immediately w/o waiting. I rarely use it nowadays they way the tanks rush forward i don't bother anymore

[Lilseph]

SO MUCH THIS!
And I thought I was doing something wrong/going mad...It actually works if u wait a second but it used to spread immediately w/o waiting. I rarely use it nowadays they way the tanks rush forward i don't bother anymore

Yeah, this has been a thing since deployement tactics was implemented. If you deploy way too fast, you'll see a "no effect" fest on your screen, which it's infuriating to say the least. Hope they could adjust that.

[EaMett]

Ah, in that case the issue is the delay in shield deployment, not the order they're used in.

The delay is due to the way server ticks work and how buffs and heals propagate. It's the same reason you get hit by AoEs after stepping out of them, or everyone but 1 or 2 players receive last minute shields, etc. etc. It's been like that since the game launched and even if they multiply the number of ticks the effect will still be there, just lessened.

On the other hand, splitting the critlo into two shields is a deliberate design meant to entice you to deploy off of your tank and benefit from the extra shield to cover for autos while at the same time getting a more consistent healing rotation from a fixed galvanize value. This was meant to be the upside of losing so much potency on critlo-deploy in 5.0.
The order in which the shields need to be consumed should be catalyze > galvanize, to give us time to deploy the full shield.

The notion that we'd have "loads more time to deploy" is mute because we came from a place where we placed the shield on our faerie and had all of ~30s to deploy it anyways. + currently we just place the shield on ourselves, and have all of ~30s to deploy. Catalyze for the most part is wasted