Duty Roulette: Alliance Raids kexp needs to be adjusted

[Kurando]

The problem is that while unlocking frontlines unlocks all maps simultaneously, players could be months between unlocking different Alliance raid tiers.
What if you've only unlocked CT and Ivalice is todays roulette?

Unless you have a solution to players cheating the ilvl to purposely get lower raids then it's just too bad if one day someone can't do the Roulette because they don't have X or Y raid unlocked. (It can take time for some to unlock Expert roulette, and that occasionally has MSQ requirements so don't see a problem). Otherwise as I said even if Ivalice gets extra exp rewarded it still requires more effort hence less people will do it, hell it could potentially be quicker to run MSQ roulette sometimes than Orbonne!

[Seraphor]

Unless you have a solution to players cheating the ilvl to purposely get lower raids then it's just too bad if one day someone can't do the Roulette because they don't have X or Y raid unlocked. (It can take time for some to unlock Expert roulette, and that occasionally has MSQ requirements so don't see a problem). Otherwise as I said even if Ivalice gets extra exp rewarded it still requires more effort hence less people will do it, hell it could potentially be quicker to run MSQ roulette sometimes than Orbonne!

Some maybe, but most people will prefer a larger reward for their effort, than 'waste' a roulette on a less rewarding option.
Run leveling roulette, do you want to get the highest level dungeon available, or do you want to get Ifrit Normal for a fifth of the exp?
You can always reduce your ilvl to 25 to force Ifrit normal if you like, get it done in 2 minutes.

[ForteNightshade]

In Duty Roulette: Trials there's a system in place that awards twice the exp if you get a duty that takes longer than usual, like Steps of Faith or The Great Hunt, a system like this also exists for Duty Roulette: Leveling where getting Ifrit/Garuda/Titan story modes award 0.5x the exp.

This time consumed <-> Exp ratio doesn't exist in Alliance roulette, Syrcus tower takes 15 minutes to clear, Orbonne takes upwards 40 minutes (sometimes more if wipes), both reward the same total exp. This creates a situation where people are intentionally lowering their item level to avoid the higher level duties, or those who don't do that just abandon the duty if it's Dun Scaith or Orbonne. When abandoning a duty, doing something else for 30 mins and queuing again is better than just clearing Orbonne you know this is really poorly balanced.

My proposal is: keep the 3 CT raids as baseline exp, adjust the exp gained from level 60 and 70 raids based on how much more or less they take to clear on average compared to the 3 CT raids (Orbonne would give 2.5x exp for example)

Castrum Meridianium in Main Scenario should also be reviewed, while it shouldn't match Praetorium reward wise, it requires far more player input than Prae, which again is causing issues with people leaving the duty, or afking/going offline.

While I adamantly agree with the overall suggestion. I would actually go the route of nerfing Crystal Tower raid EXP. Nothing too drastic otherwise people wouldn't want to stay. Just enough so you didn't need a huge scaling difference for Orbonne. Even if they did go the give Void and Ivalice raids more EXP, it would at least help alleviate the problem we're seeing.

That all being said, I do think they need to fix people taking off their gear. All it takes is forcing you to unlock each raid series once you reach the appropriate level if you want access to Alliance Roulette. And making it so you cannot queue unless you meet the min ilvl for Orbonne (or Dun Scaith if you were level 60).

[RoyalBeef]

As for people lowering their ilevel to get easy content because they're too Bad to do things even remotely requiring thinking: They should set a minimum ilevel based on your current level, so you're eligible to be put into any that are available to you. I.e., if you're level 60-69, your ilevel has to be at least 235, so you can get into the 50 and 60 raids. Tired of getting crappy boring raids because some loser doesn't want to play for an extra 5 minutes.

So your solution is to force more of those players into your Orbonne raids? Wonder how well that will go ^^

[Misutoraru]

Are there Raids aside from the three Crystal Tower ones? Because I certainly haven't ever seen them in my roulettes.

Would be nice to get Ridorana once in a while. I miss Construct 7.

This, my maths is getting a bit “rusty”

I haven’t see anything outside the boring CT for 2 weeks now, I don’t mind the same reward, just get me something not that boring CT raid

[LaylaTsarra]

As for people lowering their ilevel to get easy content because they're too Bad to do things even remotely requiring thinking: They should set a minimum ilevel based on your current level, so you're eligible to be put into any that are available to you. I.e., if you're level 60-69, your ilevel has to be at least 235, so you can get into the 50 and 60 raids. Tired of getting crappy boring raids because some loser doesn't want to play for an extra 5 minutes.

Actually they are thinking. They realize that wiping in Orbornne isn't worth the reward. Calling people bad and losers is easy but really they're not bad or losers they're smart. Most have lots to do other than waste their time in raids that require lots more time for the same reward. Perhaps SE needs to adjust the rewards for the level of content entered and make it worth the effort.

Personally I like Orbornne as a duty but NOT when I have to wipe 5 times at Thunder God to get through the content. Believe me there are lots of other ways to earn experience than waste my time with that for the small reward that Alliance gives. The gear, tokens and materia mats sure aren't worth the effort at this point in time.

[Eldevern]

I read often here and there people are doing Alliance or MSQ roulette for the XP. These roulettes are also a good way to make tomes as soon as you reach the higher level. Some here seem to totally skip this part of the question.
The expert? You do less tomes for a run that not always goes that fast.

[Seraphor]

I read often here and there people are doing Alliance or MSQ roulette for the XP. These roulettes are also a good way to make tomes as soon as you reach the higher level. Some here seem to totally skip this part of the question.
The expert? You do less tomes for a run that not always goes that fast.

The Expert Roulette dungeons also give current tomestones in their own right, in addition to the tomes you get from doing Expert Roulette itself.
Whereas Alliance Roulette will only give you Phatasmagoria/Goetia via the roulette rewards, the raids themselves only give Poetics.

[Tridus]

Unless you have a solution to players cheating the ilvl to purposely get lower raids then it's just too bad if one day someone can't do the Roulette because they don't have X or Y raid unlocked. (It can take time for some to unlock Expert roulette, and that occasionally has MSQ requirements so don't see a problem). Otherwise as I said even if Ivalice gets extra exp rewarded it still requires more effort hence less people will do it, hell it could potentially be quicker to run MSQ roulette sometimes than Orbonne!

Set the minimum ilvl for the roulette equal to the highest ilvl of all alliance raids you have unlocked at the level of the job you want to queue on. Done.

Playing a 70+ and you've done Orbonne? You can't queue it unless you are wearing enough gear to enter Orbonne. The exploiting of the roulette going on right now is way out of hand and it's past time to rein it back in.

(Would also work on levelling roulette so we don't get any more of the "Shire gear is good enough for Holminster Switch" insanity.)

And yes, tweaking rewards based on what you get would also help. Do that as well. Orbonne should be worth more than the "mechanics are for cars" raid.

[Machi_Machiavelli]

Rarely pops for me. The community has fixed this by rigging ilvl.