Duty Roulette: Alliance Raids kexp needs to be adjusted

[Duskane]

Steps of Faith gives double exp

Rathalos also gives 9 mil exp
which is generally what a level roulette will give you in the 70s

[Seraphor]

To be honest even if Orbonne offered better rewards, the time spent trying to compete this duty puts off a number of players from wanting to do it. Why would someone spend a long time in duty, having to pay attention to mechs, potentially wiping several times etc when they could just face roll in a Crystal Tower raid (less so WoD as it can still cause small number of wipes). Essentially that's the harsh reality of it, a group of players want the easiest route with the least resistance.

I'm pretty sure the trials and leveling Roulettes (daily bonuses) give a fixed reward based on a percentage of your level, (obviously taking in to account any exp from mobs etc in the duty) so I don't think it matters how long the actual duty is whether you get Steps of Faith or something else.

You've never got Ifrit Normal in a leveling Roulette have you?
You might be expecting 10m EXP for you current level from Leveling Roulette, instead you get 2m...
It feels like you've wasted the roulette, but you've been adequately compensated for your time, so you can do something else instead.

So this discrepancy already exists.
Do you expect a set amount of EXP per roulette, or do you get rewarded proportionately for your time?

They've chosen 'time' to reward for Leveling, trials and MSQ roulette. And so far, the majority of people prefer the 'long time-big reward' options, like Praetorium over Castrum, etc.
If they did the same for Alliance, people might not reduce their ilvl so much.

Of course I'm in favour of seeing more of the recent raids though, kind of agree with the suggestion from a couple saying it should be like Frontlines rotation. Do it so it's a different trilogy each day and then players can't try to cheat the outcome with their ilvl, plus you can increase the exp bonus for running the content.

The problem is that while unlocking frontlines unlocks all maps simultaneously, players could be months between unlocking different Alliance raid tiers.
What if you've only unlocked CT and Ivalice is todays roulette?

If there was a Petition, Id sign it in favor of more EXP from Alliance Raid Roulette
And for real Castrum Meridianium in MSQ NEEDS to get a Boost. Its shorter, requires more effort, but its not worth doing. Prae gives about 9-12mill at lv70-80. While Cast only gives about 4-6mill.

Castrum might be shorter, but it's not HALF the duration, it's more like 30m vs 45m.
So Castrum rewards should really be more like 6-9mil exp at 70-80.

I do agree that Alliance Roulette in general should be rewarding more EXP.

I feel like it should give more then the leveling roulette, personally, but it always give less regardless of what level you are as far as I've noticed.

Because Leveling is the main queue filler for all of the main story dungeons and trials, for newbie progression. They want as many people running it as possible.
Alliance Raids are optional content. They're a lower priority.
If everyone only did one roulette a day, they want it to be Leveling, not Alliance.

[Kurando]

The problem is that while unlocking frontlines unlocks all maps simultaneously, players could be months between unlocking different Alliance raid tiers.
What if you've only unlocked CT and Ivalice is todays roulette?

Unless you have a solution to players cheating the ilvl to purposely get lower raids then it's just too bad if one day someone can't do the Roulette because they don't have X or Y raid unlocked. (It can take time for some to unlock Expert roulette, and that occasionally has MSQ requirements so don't see a problem). Otherwise as I said even if Ivalice gets extra exp rewarded it still requires more effort hence less people will do it, hell it could potentially be quicker to run MSQ roulette sometimes than Orbonne!

[Seraphor]

Unless you have a solution to players cheating the ilvl to purposely get lower raids then it's just too bad if one day someone can't do the Roulette because they don't have X or Y raid unlocked. (It can take time for some to unlock Expert roulette, and that occasionally has MSQ requirements so don't see a problem). Otherwise as I said even if Ivalice gets extra exp rewarded it still requires more effort hence less people will do it, hell it could potentially be quicker to run MSQ roulette sometimes than Orbonne!

Some maybe, but most people will prefer a larger reward for their effort, than 'waste' a roulette on a less rewarding option.
Run leveling roulette, do you want to get the highest level dungeon available, or do you want to get Ifrit Normal for a fifth of the exp?
You can always reduce your ilvl to 25 to force Ifrit normal if you like, get it done in 2 minutes.

[HyoMinPark]

You can always reduce your ilvl to 25 to force Ifrit normal if you like, get it done in 2 minutes.

You can’t, actually. Leveling dungeons don’t have item level restrictions (and neither does the Roulette), so you can get up to Mt. Gulg with a collective item level of 25.

[Tridus]

Unless you have a solution to players cheating the ilvl to purposely get lower raids then it's just too bad if one day someone can't do the Roulette because they don't have X or Y raid unlocked. (It can take time for some to unlock Expert roulette, and that occasionally has MSQ requirements so don't see a problem). Otherwise as I said even if Ivalice gets extra exp rewarded it still requires more effort hence less people will do it, hell it could potentially be quicker to run MSQ roulette sometimes than Orbonne!

Set the minimum ilvl for the roulette equal to the highest ilvl of all alliance raids you have unlocked at the level of the job you want to queue on. Done.

Playing a 70+ and you've done Orbonne? You can't queue it unless you are wearing enough gear to enter Orbonne. The exploiting of the roulette going on right now is way out of hand and it's past time to rein it back in.

(Would also work on levelling roulette so we don't get any more of the "Shire gear is good enough for Holminster Switch" insanity.)

And yes, tweaking rewards based on what you get would also help. Do that as well. Orbonne should be worth more than the "mechanics are for cars" raid.

[Moonlite]

The other choice is to evaluate how long it takes and try to bring all the raids in line for time. So either buff the easy ones or nerf the harder ones. Would it truly be that much harder to tweak the bosses?



Also if the roulette is truly for getting other players through, shouldn't the higher ones have a better reward by default? The lower ones can draw from a bigger pool of players.



Another choice which doesn't truly entice players. Is to try the system that PvP has and lock out all but one a certain day. I don't exactly like that because it forces/punishes the players into only being able to do what SE tells them to. But we have the system in place from pvp already and they force the complete MSQ runs on players. So they have precedent for both.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Are there Raids aside from the three Crystal Tower ones? Because I certainly haven't ever seen them in my roulettes.

Would be nice to get Ridorana once in a while. I miss Construct 7.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

If there was a Petition, Id sign it in favor of more EXP from Alliance Raid Roulette
And for real Castrum Meridianium in MSQ NEEDS to get a Boost. Its shorter, requires more effort, but its not worth doing. Prae gives about 9-12mill at lv70-80. While Cast only gives about 4-6mill.

[Avidria]

There a risk of an abandon in Praetorium from time to time? lol

Players will take the penalty upon getting Titania and that's what, 10 mins?

Make the roulette like Frontlines and have a series rotate per day. Go further and put an isync in for Rabanastre so the second boss is as challenging as the penultimate one in Orbonne.

I've seen more abandons in Castrum than Prae lol

I'd rather take a 45 minute pseudo nap and get close to a whole level out of it than be stuck in Castrum for peanuts worth of XP.

@op yeah, I'd like to see the rewards scale a bit. Maybe then I'd get a little more variety in my roulettes - though I have had Void Ark for two days in a row now, which has been pretty nice actually.