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  1. #11
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    Machi_Machiavelli's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessiae View Post
    Objectively false, I can point you right now to a MNK/NIN/SMN/BRD clear of E4S week 1, 3 of those dps are considered bad with MNK being the only "op" dps.
    BRD is considered bad dps?
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by gman1311 View Post
    I’ve been wondering about all this talk about dps balance and stuff?

    For example, people are saying ninja’s dps is low. Does it make the class unable to clear savage content?

    From what I heard from the devs, they have it where any team comp can clear(i.e your two tanks, two healers and four dps)
    Every comp can clear.

    Not everyone can clear.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Every comp can clear.

    Not everyone can clear.
    Even 4 ninjas
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Every comp can clear.

    Not everyone can clear.
    Week 1 Titan, let me stop you there, Every clear likely recorded had either a DRG, MNK, or a BLM present. The check was very tight that I disagree with the claim every comp can clear without one of those 3.
    If there was a week 1 clear without any of them, i'd love to see it
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfinder3 View Post
    Week 1 Titan, let me stop you there, Every clear likely recorded had either a DRG, MNK, or a BLM present. The check was very tight that I disagree with the claim every comp can clear without one of those 3.
    If there was a week 1 clear without any of them, i'd love to see it
    Rank 273 on progression, August 5th (week 1 still) fits the criteria, but the log itself is hidden, so I'm not sure if you want to count that.

    There are also plenty of "Have the one" recorded, usually a Dragoon, that could be replaced with a comparable Samurai, or at least one that still fits the Enrage timer, short or long, and you'd have your complete set there, but I don't think you'd count that.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by gman1311 View Post
    Even 4 ninjas

    If they're robot ninjas sure. Otherwise coordinating 4 trick attacks would be such a pain, and diminishing returns even done perfectly.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    If they're robot ninjas sure. Otherwise coordinating 4 trick attacks would be such a pain, and diminishing returns even done perfectly.
    Now I want zombie robot Ninja's from Ratchet and Clank in this game.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Every comp can clear.

    Not everyone can clear.
    I knew my 4 rdm static had a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nessiae View Post
    Objectively false, I can point you right now to a MNK/NIN/SMN/BRD clear of E4S week 1, 3 of those dps are considered bad with MNK being the only "op" dps.
    SMN can meet dps requirements which is why I said only 1 of that entire composition of rdm > nin > dnc > smn wouldn't have an issue. And your mnk makes up for nin.
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    Show me a 1 week E4S clear with NIN > RDM > DNC > and the last job not being MNK DRG BLM or SAM.
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