5.0 Wind-Up Openers

[HyoMinPark]

Just going to copy this here because I clicked on the one you posted in Tank Roles, and it’s far more applicable here.

I just briefly skimmed your suggested openers for the two jobs I actively play.

I definitely disagree with your openers for BRD and DNC, but I still wanted to point out something to you regardless of my disagreement because you seem unaware of it: you cannot Barrage Apex Arrow. Your openers both list IJ > Barrage > Apex > PP > RA. This does not work because Apex Arrow is an AOE (even with its 500 potency at 100 Gauge, it has no drop-off), and you cannot Barrage AOE skills. Barrage is, unquestionably, always used with Refulgent Arrow, and Apex is never used at anything less than 100 gauge in most circumstances because the damage scales up to 500 potency. It doesn’t start at 500 potency. If you were already aware that you could not Barrage Apex, then there’s no reason to push it between Barrage and RA: RA should always be your next GCD after hitting Barrage. You also can’t put a PP proc there because it’s always used at 3-stacks now in most circumstances with the removal of Repertoire being reliant on critical ticks from your DoTs.

And you also never open with Army’s Paeon, but with your DoTs straight into Minuet. The Army’s Muse buff is not nearly beneficial enough to warrant that, plus it will leave you songless after Mage’s Ballad expires because AP won’t be off cooldown, which means even more lost damage due to the lack of Repertoire procs on your Soul Gauge. Which means it will take longer for your Soul Gauge to fill.

To add to your healer openers:

Optimally, you’d want at least a minute and 45 secs before the pull to gain all the seals you need plus one extra card. In the worst case scenario, use Sleeve Draw to get all the seals you need.

You cannot fish for AST seals pre-pull. The AST has to be in combat to gain seals from their new cards. This was a deliberate design on the part of the developers to stop the type of pre-pull openers that you have described above.

SCH also shouldn’t dump all their Aetherflow on Energy Drain. While it is a DPS gain, their main job is to heal, and they may need that Aetherflow for an Indom or the like should a fight have early-hitting raidwide AOEs.



I can appreciate that you put in a lot of time and work into this... but a lot of the openers posted here just come off as illogical to me for any of the jobs that I play and know at any sort of decent level. I think that you definitely need to brush up on job mechanics before you start actively theorycrafting more, because there seem to be quite a few that you aren’t entirely aware of. Not to discourage you or be mean or anything, but this document comes off as very misinformed in my opinion.