Stop calling it a beta

[Kailea_Nagisa]

So people think we are in a beta phase? For what, an already completed game being scrapped for a better one? The improvements you see are for 1.0 and some new ideas in 1.0 will be carried over to 2.0. Beta is to test a product before it's release, and we are not playing 2.0, we are playing 1.0. If we were in beta testing, it would be test 2.0's engine and client.

We are not beta testing a client that is eventually being dropped completely, we are playing a 100% completed game that is simply being replaced by a superior product. Whatever changes and criticism that is making 1.0 different, some of these new features are not going to make it to 2.0, because all the Dev's are doing in 1.0 is attempting to hold you over till they can get their better game out there. Simply making the time in the game for you right now a bit easier.

People need to research the term beta before using the word so loosely.

many of us do know the term "beta" and been in plenty (real betas that is)

I keep calling it a beta, mainly poking fun at the game, yes I do enjoy playing it right now, but that does not mean I don't ignore the fact that this game is indeed not finished, and is in horrible disarray.

You don't always have to take a definition so seriously and absolute.

We are testing base elements that will show up in 2.0 some of them just ideas that might not even make it (heck in the end of all this, they might take out thinks like retainers)

The game is incomplete
the game is buggy as hell
the game has many features that should have been there at release but are not
hell a lot of the stats still don't work right -.-


all these can be used to describe a game in beta status, so guess what that what I call it.

[Velhart]

many of us do know the term "beta" and been in plenty (real betas that is)

I keep calling it a beta, mainly poking fun at the game, yes I do enjoy playing it right now, but that does not mean I don't ignore the fact that this game is indeed not finished, and is in horrible disarray.

You don't always have to take a definition so seriously and absolute.

We are testing base elements that will show up in 2.0 some of them just ideas that might not even make it (heck in the end of all this, they might take out thinks like retainers)

The game is incomplete
the game is buggy as hell
the game has many features that should have been there at release but are not
hell a lot of the stats still don't work right -.-


all these can be used to describe a game in beta status, so guess what that what I call it.

Again, you are really using the word loosely. If you want to say that feedback from 1.0 is helping contribute to 2.0's development, then yes that is accurate. However, calling it beta is simply not true if you want to get technical.

Also, your list seems invalid, since those criticisms would only go towards the benefit of 1.0. I think stats would be a valid one however.

-Game is complete, it just isn't good. Rather, the original concept was a failure and the new Dev's are adding in content to favor FFXI's style of gameplay while they killed off guildleves being the main form of content.
-How can we contribute to the bugs if 2.0 is a completely new engine/client?
-It is an MMO, new features always come in.

People really underestimate how different 2.0 is going to be in terms of functionality.