Stop calling it a beta

[Elexia]

Well technically they did call it beta. When Yoshi took over he mentioned that nothing changed from beta to release. The team never got to a lot of the glaring issues, and they did not get to implement a lot of features. We still do not have a lot of those features and fixes even now.

Yoshi states time and time again that '2.0 isn't a new game.' So if 2.0 isn't an all new game what are you playing right now? Beta + story.

Beta+story huh? Where's the Crystal Tower then? Shouldn't we be beta testing that before release? You know, like what betas are for?

Where's my Chocobo battle buddy? Something else slated for 2.0, why aren't we testing that atm? I mean, since version 1.x is a beta after all we should be testing the 2.0 client on the 2.0 servers right now.

[Reinheart]

Beta+story huh? Where's the Crystal Tower then? Shouldn't we be beta testing that before release? You know, like what betas are for?

Where's my Chocobo battle buddy? Something else slated for 2.0, why aren't we testing that atm? I mean, since version 1.x is a beta after all we should be testing the 2.0 client on the 2.0 servers right now.

For that should be after April looking at the 2.0 roadmap since 2.0 system isn't even ready up until April when it finally starts going through software check phase. Now with this stuff it wont even allow porting our current data into 2.0 till they start that in May so it will really be beta testing with new character and all that w

[Geesus]

Beta+story huh? Where's the Crystal Tower then? Shouldn't we be beta testing that before release? You know, like what betas are for?

Where's my Chocobo battle buddy? Something else slated for 2.0, why aren't we testing that atm? I mean, since version 1.x is a beta after all we should be testing the 2.0 client on the 2.0 servers right now.

And while I sense some sarcasm here the thing is, we are "testing" things as they are released prior to being released in full to the public during 2.0 launch.

If you look at it from the stand point that we said, "Hey guys? You're missing this this and this and take out this and this and tweak this and that." and they are doing those things, which is what happens with testing. Also, we WILL test 2.0 for the most part. Whether they tell us straight up we are or not is on SE.
I just had a quick thought that, could you imagine after all this work if we AREN'T in someway helping "test" this stuff and they launch 2.0 and it has as many flaws as the original release.... oh man, what a f*ck up THAT would be.

And technically any of the above items you mentioned, we most likely will in one way or another give our feedback on prior to release.

[Bowen]

Honestly, who cares? Just enjoy the game. Christ. . .

[Xeonerable]

Beta was loong gone... this is the gamma test phase.

[Neptune]

I just emailed this thread to all of my friends to show them how retarded the FFXIV boards are.

[Rowyne]

I just emailed this thread to all of my friends to show them how retarded the FFXIV boards are.

Lawl

Seriously, it's a silly thing to argue about at this point. SE has made their decisions, no going back now.

Some feel that this period is basically nothing but a big paid beta test and it's outrageous to be asked for a subscription fee. Can't blame you. I feel the same way.

Some enjoy the game and are excited enough to pay to get a front row seat to world-changing events. For those of you new to this sort of thing, it is pretty neat. For those of us who have been around the block, it's World of Warcraft Cataclysm all over again. They do a world event every expansion. Been there, done that. More than once.

Doesn't matter what you call it, it's all about your point of view.

Continue.

/grabs popcorn

[Kailea_Nagisa]

I just emailed this thread to all of my friends to show them how retarded the FFXIV boards are.

and yet you are posting here as well...mmmm ;p

[Baxter]

I just emailed this thread to all of my friends to show them how retarded the FFXIV boards are.

hint:if they assume we are anything at all like you - they know

[Orcishgrappler]

This is a paid beta. It is what it is.