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    Lersayil's Avatar
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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    And the part about samurai not being high apm, that just tells me you either never played samurai seriously or just occasionally played it.
    Back in sigma samurai was very much a high apm job. Because bis was sks but you know the beauty of samurai thanks to hagakura? Samurai could flex from being a ultra fast job to a bursty slow crt samurai.
    Trying to find hard data on this, but I don't recall SAM being particularly high APM compared to a NIN or BRD (MNK?). And yes, I was running SkS melds almost the whole of SB. And its most definitely not higher APM than a SMN or NIN current expansion.

    EDIT: looking at the Omega clears on 90+ percentiles SAM avaraged around 40 CPM, BRD 46 CPM, NIN 45 CPM, MNK 44 CPM.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsemaru View Post
    my personal opinion (it dont matter if it triggers people saying this) if pressing 1 button between gcd is too much to handle, it's no wonder why shb jobs are super dumb to play with no flex or flow and doesn't reward player skill (looking at Ninjas).
    the "dark arts" (alltho nothing compared to the Shinten we were talking about) has 1 thing in common with Shinten, and that is, if your not paying attention and over spent, you f'ed yourself over. take it like a champ and learn from it.

    It's understandable that some people prefer NOT spaming shinten due to latency, cronic tunnle vision, amnesia - forgeting when to stop spending kenki for that kaiten that allways seams to come 3 gcd's too early..am i right? i know every sam had accidentally overspent kenki once or twice? dont even deny...
    It also has another thing in common: its a one button resource dump, between GCDs, giving you a flat potency bonus.

    And the reason I don't like it is not due to the "effort" it requires. Its a kenki dump. Pressing one button over and over and over again with minimal thought put into it is just plain old boring to me (hence the comparison to DRK).

    Currently I have no issue with the amount of Shintens. Sure, if you save up a few for a burst phase its slightly tedious, but not unbearable. I just don't want more of it. Surely they can come up with more imaginative mechanics for the class than "press Shinten moAr".
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    Last edited by Lersayil; 08-07-2019 at 03:53 PM.