Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
You could stack Ikkishoten and Hagakure AFTER burning enough Kenki so it wouldn\\\\'t overcap
Well of course if you do Ikki after burning a bit of kenki. That wasn't what I was talking about but I'll ignore that.

Shinten is no where near as bad as dark arts for the sole fact samurai GCD is naturally faster not making it as much as a pain, why you think no real samurai player complained about it?
Because it feels good to use, it\\\\'s quick and it's great seeing those big numbers and keeps up your DPS. If you think otherwise well I don't know what to tell you.

And the part about samurai not being high apm, that just tells me you either never played samurai seriously or just occasionally played it.
Back in sigma samurai was very much a high apm job. Because bis was sks but you know the beauty of samurai thanks to hagakura? Samurai could flex from being a ultra fast job to a bursty slow crt samurai.

Haga wasn't just about gaining your kenki and mixing up your sen?

I don't get that. At what point would you want to use it other than at 3 sen? The times you use it at 2 sen was far and few between in the middle of a fight . Only few times to use it at two sen was your opener and reopener and a long phase change and I guess some air situations...either way, it added flexibility and made the job smooth so everything flow if you played it right. So I'm not advocating anything.I played this job all through SB and seriously at that, not just playing it in a dgn or ex Primals.

5.x samurai lost all that beautiful design now it's just a generic melee. Pretty much a dragoon.

Sorry for the snark, I just feel any samurai that doesn't like haga or doesn't want it back wasn't a full time samurai or a very good one or understand why samurai was so beautifully designed. ((Balance wise it was crap, just like now lol))