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    I've still yet to hear a solid argument against this simple suggestion;

    Just make using chat a privilege that can be taken away.

    Done. Toxic people get muted. Three strikes and muted for life. People who aren't dicks about it get to keep chat and presumably be helpful to their teammates. Bonus point; Since being a dick can result in losing access to chat, maybe people will be think twice before being a dick in chat, "I've been muted for 24 hours, maybe I'll curb my toxicity a bit", wishful thinking? Probably... Christ, this is the exact same system they use on these forums, which I'm likely about to incur for repeated use of the word "dick".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I've still yet to hear a solid argument against this simple suggestion;

    Just make using chat a privilege that can be taken away.

    Done. Toxic people get muted. Three strikes and muted for life. People who aren't dicks about it get to keep chat and presumably be helpful to their teammates. Bonus point; Since being a dick can result in losing access to chat, maybe people will be think twice before being a dick in chat, "I've been muted for 24 hours, maybe I'll curb my toxicity a bit", wishful thinking? Probably... Christ, this is the exact same system they use on these forums, which I'm likely about to incur for repeated use of the word "dick".
    This isn't going to solve anything. We are all muted and people still come up with ways in order to harass others. You'll just give SE extra work for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    This isn't going to solve anything. We are all muted and people still come up with ways in order to harass others. You'll just give SE extra work for nothing.
    Chocobo-shite.

    Look at the title of this thread. New player, put off by the lack of chat because he is unable to simply communicate with his team, for better or worse. That is what SE gains out of such a change; Not putting new players off their "eSports level" PvP mode. Actually creating an environment that helps encourage people to play the damn mode. Yes there will be toxic pricks, but they'll get muted then we never hear from them again, leaving us with only the decent people who can give helpful advice and actually build up a sense of community in game.

    Extra work for nothing... Christ... It's extra work to help ensure that this dumb game mode actually has a future that can grow a community, rather than this stagnant mess that just bleeds veterans and puts new players off... Not saying having chat back is a magical panacea that'll fix Feast of all its woes, but you really cannot have a successful game mode when you cripple players ability to communicate like this...

    Simply muting the people who are toxic, as they're toxic, achieves the exact same scenario that we're currently in, if as people claim everyone in PvP is toxic. If there are good and helpful people about? They wont get muted. They'll be able to talk and help other players in Feast. That is a good thing, which should be encouraged. To act like everyone is toxic and they'd all be muted anyway if frankly an insult to such players, which is exactly what SE is doing by just blanket muting everyone instead of what I suggested.

    It's not even extra work... Like you said, people just find ways around the mute to be toxic... How many people are still reported off Feast for post-game /tells, or mid-match quickchat/mark ignore spam? Muting everyone didn't fix the problem, it just moved it. Meanwhile people who could do a lot of good for the community are also muted because... Why exactly? Give me one good reason why someone who'd simply offer polite advice and help their team with a strategy should also be muted. Go ahead, I'll wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    I couldn't care less because I no longer PVP and I haven't for a good amount of years, but I'd say it's in your best interest that this situation doesn't keep getting worse, or at this rate you'll be left with nothing but flamers because sane and polite people will keep leaving progressively.
    This actually made me laugh, because it's the complete opposite... Having chat back wouldn't increase the amount of toxicity, nor would it really decrease it, but it would allow for some positivity to counterbalance the salt. Instead of having "nothing but flamers", you'd see the polite people retain their chat rights and actively use it, creating a more positive environment for new players... A situation like that is in the Feast communities best interest, not this bury-your-head-in-the-sand style solution... The blanket muting solved nothing, it just moved the problem under the rug while also silencing any potential good from the community.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 08-04-2019 at 03:21 AM.