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  1. #141
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    This thread is a perfect example of why parsers will never be allowed. People take wildly incomplete, random data and harass others with it. The ToS will always be in favor of fair and cooperative play. It feels good to be on the right side. To those in the thread who rally against this toxicity: keep up the good fight.
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    Why do people come up with arbitrary and fake complaints to fuel problems that don't exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    This thread is a perfect example of why parsers will never be allowed. People take wildly incomplete, random data and harass others with it. The ToS will always be in favor of fair and cooperative play. It feels good to be on the right side. To those in the thread who rally against this toxicity: keep up the good fight.
    So should they just remove enrages then? That way even if you have no idea how to play your class as long as you DDR the bads well enough the boss will eventually die?
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    I would very much like to be able to parse myself on ps4. I've wanted to do this since ARR launched. I really don't care to see other people's dps, only my own. SSS doesn't do anything to let me know if I'm playing well.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeilos View Post
    So should they just remove enrages then? That way even if you have no idea how to play your class as long as you DDR the bads well enough the boss will eventually die?
    Parsing is against the ToS. A boss enraging is not. Not sure how the two are correlated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    Parsing is against the ToS. A boss enraging is not. Not sure how the two are correlated.
    Tight enrages are the only reason raids even started to bother parsing and writing 3rd party programs etc. because they needed to see what was going on and who was the weak link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Tight enrages are the only reason raids even started to bother parsing and writing 3rd party programs etc. because they needed to see what was going on and who was the weak link.
    It's a video game, not a job. There are no weak links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    It's a video game, not a job. There are no weak links.
    If you have a group that spends 6 hours dieing to a boss that you have no reason why then youve basically spent a work day accomplishing nothing but frustration.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    It's a video game, not a job. There are no weak links.
    If the boss wipes you due to insufficient DPS: yup there are.
    That's just the ugly reality of raiding at the bleeding edge.

    If you go in later and are overgeared, the boss typically goes down when everyone survives and handles mechanics properly while maintaining a modest uptime.

    Raiding is a team based activity and in every such activity underperformers will face a hard time. You local soccer team won't accept you slacking off either.
    Same with a music band. People will have limited patience and give you opportunities to improve but ultimately, you either measure up or find a group more suited to your skill levels.
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  9. #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qeilos View Post
    If you have a group that spends 6 hours dieing to a boss that you have no reason why then youve basically spent a work day accomplishing nothing but frustration.
    You're absolutely right. That's why people who form "statics" and actually set schedules for video games confuse me greatly. Perhaps people like to pretend it's a job and choose not to enjoy the game. Not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    It's a video game, not a job. There are no weak links.
    Weak links do exist. If you hit enrage during an EX fight it means someone isn't pulling the weight they should be pulling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demetri_Delethorn View Post
    You're absolutely right. That's why people who form "statics" and actually set schedules for video games confuse me greatly. Perhaps people like to pretend it's a job and choose not to enjoy the game. Not sure.

    People who want a reliable, constant group for some of the hardest content confuse you?
    You understand doing hard content is actually enjoyable, right?
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