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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    I think Dark Knight feels pretty good right now. While it's not perfect, no job is, and I'd argue that anyone thinking Dark Knight is the squishiest tank either isn't playing it properly or only has experience with people who aren't playing it properly.
    Or people who disagree with this statement does not play other tanks job, because DRK is objectively the squishest tank in the roaster. And by saying this, i am saying its performance in the hardest benchmarks which are dungeon pulls.
    Any tank is able to tank raids and bosses effectively, the difference between tank jobs is getting more visible if you put each one in front of large stack of enemies who are able to do much more damage than any raid boss could do.
    In this case, DRK besides having TBN and shadow wall and abyssal drain heal has nothing else to mitigate damage, an i am not counting 2 obvious tank roles CD's because these are not enough.
    If gunbreaker is not a tank, then DRK is a weakest dps in there, because GNB has 4 cooldowns on his own to mitigate damage + more useful superbolide over nearly useless living death.

    DRK lost his superior sustain he used to have in stormblood and now he is left with 2 abilities to play dungeons with, its pathetic and painful to play in dungeons. I have no motivation to lvl my drk, the difference in deffensives between each tank job is huge.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    To be fair, when were tanks never squishy. Def cooldowns, sure, But you wont be holding off a pack of mobs for very long without a healer...well drk wont, my bad. lol
    Stromblood DRK and Warrior want to have a word with you.
    My healers were able to dps when i was doing my rotation, it was this powerful.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 07-30-2019 at 08:05 PM.

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    I'm surprise Dark Warrior don't get some adjustment, I hope this mean they are gonna fix his gameplay buy highly doubt it sadly, we are not full WARs after all to deserve such necessary changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Or people who disagree with this statement does not play other tanks job, because DRK is objectively the squishest tank in the roaster.
    Please don't use words if you can't use them correctly/accurately. In this case the word "objectively" is flat out incorrect.

    Sorry, but YOU are the one who is objectively wrong.

    DRKs are by far the easiest to heal/least squishy. I know this because I have healed them in all of the 5.0 dungeons/content. Along with all the other tanks. And I myself main GNB (and used to main DRK).

    DRK's TBN is insanely good, and while they don't have as many unique CDs as PLD or GNB, they still have all the "universal" CDs (20%, 30%, Arm's Length, etc).

    When I play healer, I always love getting DRKs in dungeons because I know I'll have a shitton more time to DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    To be fair, when were tanks never squishy. Def cooldowns, sure, But you wont be holding off a pack of mobs for very long without a healer...well drk wont, my bad. lol
    PLD shenanigans we used to do with my personal group back in 2.0. Pretty sure that's why the walls were added in later content that constituted 'wall to wall' pulling. Before the walls it was boss to boss.
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    Drk is fine and really fun. No need to change it, i love it how it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Please don't use words if you can't use them correctly/accurately. In this case the word "objectively" is flat out incorrect.

    Sorry, but YOU are the one who is objectively wrong.

    DRKs are by far the easiest to heal/least squishy. I know this because I have healed them in all of the 5.0 dungeons/content. Along with all the other tanks. And I myself main GNB (and used to main DRK).

    DRK's TBN is insanely good, and while they don't have as many unique CDs as PLD or GNB, they still have all the "universal" CDs (20%, 30%, Arm's Length, etc).

    When I play healer, I always love getting DRKs in dungeons because I know I'll have a shitton more time to DPS.
    The universal cd's are pretty much all you need really with their kit, and blackest night really good. Well timed dcd usage makes this a non-issue, the only gripe I think would be there aren't enough meaningful uses of magic mitigation, and living dead is kind of a death sentence with most healers if you have to use it. Since you shouldn't have to use it in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post


    Stromblood DRK and Warrior want to have a word with you.
    My healers were able to dps when i was doing my rotation, it was this powerful.
    Heck, I was doing those pulls in HW DRK, that bloodprice was pretty nice. Used to mess with friends with DP+DD too, like "You're not taking any damage. at all!"*miss miss miss miss miss* I do miss the novelty of old DRK, but even then I wish it had a burst heal like equilibrium or clemency. Probably rose tinted glasses, but it was so much more fun to play than now. To me at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I agree with those saying drk is squishy in comparison.
    The 25% shield does almost no difference if you fight against big pull in dung this shield will not even last for 2 seconds, its super underwhelming and drk is left with only one deffensive cd.
    ya... what?

    it's 25% hp your healer would have to cover otherwise.
    also 1 cd? heh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    DRKs are by far the easiest to heal/least squishy. I know this because I have healed them in all of the 5.0 dungeons/content. Along with all the other tanks. And I myself main GNB (and used to main DRK).

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    When I play healer, I always love getting DRKs in dungeons because I know I'll have a shitton more time to DPS.
    I completly agree with you. Being a healer I can say DRK is the easiest to heal in 5.0. By the other hand, theres something wrong with GNB, or meyba Tanks are still adjusting to the the new role.
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    of all tank, people want DRK to change? what? shouldn't that be GNB?

    DRK is easy/braindead to play yes, but function wise, its one of the class who doing well compare to others
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