No DRK changes?

[Kazrah]

All tanks are feeling squishy. Its because Protect was taken out.

That's because mobs hit WAY harder and the game is focused more on healers having to actually heal rather than just being "green dps". Protect I think was like 2-3% overall damage reduction, which is pretty much a tinfoil hat.

I think Dark Knight feels pretty good right now. While it's not perfect, no job is, and I'd argue that anyone thinking Dark Knight is the squishiest tank either isn't playing it properly or only has experience with people who aren't playing it properly.

Meanwhile, I'm still not convinced Gunbreaker is a real tank.

[Kaethra]

That's because mobs hit WAY harder and the game is focused more on healers having to actually heal rather than just being "green dps". Protect I think was like 2-3% overall damage reduction, which is pretty much a tinfoil hat.

I think Dark Knight feels pretty good right now. While it's not perfect, no job is, and I'd argue that anyone thinking Dark Knight is the squishiest tank either isn't playing it properly or only has experience with people who aren't playing it properly.

Meanwhile, I'm still not convinced Gunbreaker is a real tank.

I though protect was a bit of a placebo too, but after seeing a performance with a friend the other day in Stone Vigil, I'm not so sure. Though the parry/block changes may have more to do with it. But I do believe every little bit adds up.

I'm not complaining though. Tanks did feel too beefy before.

[Nedkel]

I think Dark Knight feels pretty good right now. While it's not perfect, no job is, and I'd argue that anyone thinking Dark Knight is the squishiest tank either isn't playing it properly or only has experience with people who aren't playing it properly.

Or people who disagree with this statement does not play other tanks job, because DRK is objectively the squishest tank in the roaster. And by saying this, i am saying its performance in the hardest benchmarks which are dungeon pulls.
Any tank is able to tank raids and bosses effectively, the difference between tank jobs is getting more visible if you put each one in front of large stack of enemies who are able to do much more damage than any raid boss could do.
In this case, DRK besides having TBN and shadow wall and abyssal drain heal has nothing else to mitigate damage, an i am not counting 2 obvious tank roles CD's because these are not enough.
If gunbreaker is not a tank, then DRK is a weakest dps in there, because GNB has 4 cooldowns on his own to mitigate damage + more useful superbolide over nearly useless living death.

DRK lost his superior sustain he used to have in stormblood and now he is left with 2 abilities to play dungeons with, its pathetic and painful to play in dungeons. I have no motivation to lvl my drk, the difference in deffensives between each tank job is huge.

To be fair, when were tanks never squishy. Def cooldowns, sure, But you wont be holding off a pack of mobs for very long without a healer...well drk wont, my bad. lol

Stromblood DRK and Warrior want to have a word with you.
My healers were able to dps when i was doing my rotation, it was this powerful.

[Kaedan]

Or people who disagree with this statement does not play other tanks job, because DRK is objectively the squishest tank in the roaster.

Please don't use words if you can't use them correctly/accurately. In this case the word "objectively" is flat out incorrect.

Sorry, but YOU are the one who is objectively wrong.

DRKs are by far the easiest to heal/least squishy. I know this because I have healed them in all of the 5.0 dungeons/content. Along with all the other tanks. And I myself main GNB (and used to main DRK).

DRK's TBN is insanely good, and while they don't have as many unique CDs as PLD or GNB, they still have all the "universal" CDs (20%, 30%, Arm's Length, etc).

When I play healer, I always love getting DRKs in dungeons because I know I'll have a shitton more time to DPS.

[SendohJin]

Or people who disagree with this statement does not play other tanks job, because DRK is objectively the squishest tank in the roaster. And by saying this, i am saying its performance in the hardest benchmarks which are dungeon pulls.
Any tank is able to tank raids and bosses effectively, the difference between tank jobs is getting more visible if you put each one in front of large stack of enemies who are able to do much more damage than any raid boss could do.
In this case, DRK besides having TBN and shadow wall and abyssal drain heal has nothing else to mitigate damage, an i am not counting 2 obvious tank roles CD's because these are not enough.

what does PLD have that's better than DRK?

[Hanayumi]

Tanks are fairly balanced and savage tends to be the real test for jobs. For the most part tanks are prolly going to be picked on what they can cheese with their invuln. So we shall see, if Devs see any issues they'll change the jobs afterword, most likely in 5.1.

[Greywolfamakir]

DRK is fine.
Its not perfect, like other tanks, but its in a really good spot right now.

[Vallerie]

Being a filthy casual I am, the only things about DRK I would change are Delirium, LD, and maybe slightly increase mana regen. Other than that I'm rather happy with it.

[RamothElggur]

Instead of Dark mind only negating Magic dmg, perhaps changing it so it mitigates any damage, Ofc changing the amount it would mitigate ( reduced by a few %) . other then that i see atm nothing wrong with DRK (people argue about TBN, some people like it, some people don', ther a two camps atm, same for LD).

Compared to the Stormbloods Version i think this is a massive improvement.

Stormblood DRK simply felt awful in the way he was designed, and he was by far the weakest of the Tanks. With the amount of Off GCDs and some tools It has now it is almost a similar feeling of the HW version of DRK, But easier because you only have to manage one full combo and not 2-3.

[Adventica6]

This is more of a mini patch, expect changes in 5.1 -5.2 / this is more of a tidying up patch for jobs that were literal trash (Ast). There is more to come down the road I'm sure but tanks aren't exactly doing that bad right now.