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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    And Living Dead?
    And living dead. Forgot about that LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Well thats the feeling i get from playing it, i have all tanks at 75 or higher. Atm warrior is my favorite. DRK's just don't feel like it got enough damage reduction skills like the other tanks do.
    Yet TBN is useable every 15 seconds and is great in wall to wall pulls. You shouldnt need to use more then 1 normal cd per trash pull if your dps and healer are good.
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    My only major complaint with Dark Knight is Delirium being War-ified... Hate that change, it's not satisfying to do in the slightest... Press a button and spam the same move... Inner Release gets away with it because it becomes satisfying to have 100% Crit/Direct Hit rate, plus the animation is a hoot... Delirium lacks all of that flair...

    Other than that, my only complain is pretty much universal across all tanks; There is a distinct lack of variety in skills. Warrior bucks the trend somewhat, but when Sentinel/Shadow Wall/Nebula are literally carbon copies? Intervene/Plunge/Rough Divide are literally carbon copies? That's a problem IMO. On the flip side, the Hallowed Ground skills just have variety for the sake of variety, with essentially no interesting flair added to justify the negative effects Living Dead/Superbolide incur. Give Gunbreaker something for dumping 99.9% of its HP. Give Dark Knight something while suffering Walking Dead (I'd actually slap the current Delirium effect on there, personally).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Give Dark Knight something while suffering Walking Dead (I'd actually slap the current Delirium effect on there, personally).
    That's...not a terrible idea? Desperate measures while you're about to die...maybe slap lifesteal on it as well to help us get ourselves out of the status.
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    I mean, maybe delirium wouldnt be so bad if we had 1 or 2 more blood spenders? IDK.
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    Happy i still got my pounce... Though why did they have to give one to paladins <.<
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    Last edited by GrizzlyTank; 07-31-2019 at 12:26 AM.

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    Tanks aren't over geared atm... give it time, they will be less squishy. I think they are all in a decent place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallerie View Post
    That's...not a terrible idea? Desperate measures while you're about to die...maybe slap lifesteal on it as well to help us get ourselves out of the status.
    *While under the effect of Walking Dead Abyssal Drain cooldown is reset and incurs no cooldown.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Typhoria View Post
    *While under the effect of Walking Dead Abyssal Drain cooldown is reset and incurs no cooldown.*
    Why would anyone want to make Living Dead be used instead of scraping it for an actual good invuln?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Why would anyone want to make Living Dead be used instead of scraping it for an actual good invuln?!
    Personally I'd rather each tank bring its own flair to its selection of skills, and I'm really not sure how you can achieve that with invulnerability skills in a way that's massively different to what we already have... They could just make Hallowed Ground a Role Actions, but I want less homogenization of role skills, not more... The flavour Living Dead provides is actually appreciated, at least IMO, the issue is that it has a pretty hefty cost with... No real payoff... I'm sure many argue that it's low cooldown is the payoff for its negative effects, but I really don't think that's good enough...

    Having some bonus effect while under Walking Dead would be a great "fix" IMO, one that provides additional HP via Drain effects would be an added boon to help offset the "Heal to 100%" requirement to dispel Walking Dead... The idea behind the skill is that you've just died, but you're giving 10 seconds worth of a last stand, so let me feel like I'm giving 10 seconds worth of a last stand... You're literally Walking Dead, you should hold absolutely nothing back in that scenario and just be spamming everything in a last desperate attempt to survive... I'd much rather have flavour like that in my "Get out of Death free" skill, than a measly copy of Hallowed Ground...

    After seeing Superbolide I really don't want SE to scrap Living Dead, what we'd get in replacement would either be worse (reduce my HP to 1, then apply invulnerability? words fail me) or they'd just go the Role Action route and gut even more Job identity...

    The only other idea I've had for Living Dead, is to have it interact with Living Shadow... Probably not a cooldown reset, but having old Fray take on Walking Dead for you if you happen to pop Living Shadow while under the effect of Walking Dead? Would be a neat little bit of flavour to the Job...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 07-31-2019 at 01:45 AM.

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