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  1. #31
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Thank god for the potency increases and recast reductions.
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  2. #32
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    Chiraisu Saika
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mecuric_Chlorice View Post
    Remove art of war and give back bane pls
    No. No. No, No, No No No NO No NO NO NO NO. Shush. stop it. Screw bane. Stop asking for it. It doesn't even do anything for Scholar anymore! Are you actually serious? What is it even going to do, huh? 200 potency max to a mob? What then? Hm? gonna spam bane for AoE dmg? No? Just gonna sit there on your butt? What good is your GCD then? Seriously, you people ask for crap and you don't even know what you want. Maybe EA was right after all
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  3. #33
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    Cruise Chaser
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    Scholar Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    Um, so? Making it meta again was never the point. It was to balance them with the other healers.
    You shouldn't want any job buffed into meta.
    Healers are, as of right now, pretty nicely balanced.
    I thought the point was to make all three healers meta, right? Isn't that what balanced means? Also if you think that ast will be on an even playing field with sch and whm right now, you're mistaken. Healing potencies was not what they needed most. The only actual buff they got to their raid contribution is divination being on a shorter cooldown. And let's be real, divination being a 6% buff for 15s on a 2 minute cd is still pretty pathetic.
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  4. #34
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    I'm personally fine with the adjustments for the most part.
    Now, make Presence of Mind 120s and I'll be 100% fine with Healers in their current state.
    PoM could definitely do with some better alignment with raid buffs.
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  5. #35
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    SCH is looking a little better. ED was really the biggest issue.

    AST got some improvements but not even close to making it back into meta.

    If I’m understanding the savage loot table correctly healers won’t get any gear in statics
    Making AST meta wasnt even in the ballpark of what they've been trying to do with healers they want to balance them not make people go you we want you screw that other healer.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  6. #36
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
    And let's be real, divination being a 6% buff for 15s on a 2 minute cd is still pretty pathetic.
    Except you're acting like AST isn't tossing out other buffs in the meantime. AST still does the most raid buffing of all the healers by a wide margin. And if trick attack can be so high impact lasting only 10s, I'm sure AST's buff spamming can make an impact too.

    And if it's still too low, SE will buff it again. But can we please stop acting like raid buffs are meaningless? They've been defining the meta for years, across several expacs (or all expacs, if you count jobs other than AST)
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    AST still does the most raid buffing of all the healers by a wide margin.
    Irrelevant when it doesn't even come close to making up for their terrible personal dps.
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  8. #38
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    Zolmation Volt
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Get over yourself. If Sacred Soil is indeed "worth it", then it will still see use. SCHs will not suddenly start burning their Aetherflow on CD on Energy Drain just because deeps, because that's not really how it was ever used anyway.

    Energy Drain was either your reward for optimising your healing (and thus a stack dump), or it was a risk you took and if your gamble failed, you paid for it pretty heavily (by having to resort to your less efficient GCD heals). Being able to take risks is vital for a compelling gameplay system. It also gives Dissipation more of a reason to continue existing, because you sure as hell weren't consistently spending your stacks before Aetherflow came off cooldown before, let alone having 6 to get rid of.
    its not a risk to use a dps button over a healing button every healer is doing that constantly. Its not a risk to use energydrain. having to use minimal healing aetherflow is terrible design. You have 5 aetherflow spells and half of them being spent on energy drain is the reality. Its not a reward its the norm. and if you were using excog and Sacred soil properly you already weren't capping on aetherflow w/ dissipate still having a place for your spread adlo's.

    Sch can afford to dump nearly all of their aetherflow on energydrain in trials now because damage can be healed up with a fairy/seraph OGCD + your other healer's OGCD (or lily casts). You only rely on healing aetherflow when you're solo healing or carrying the weight. Energy Drain is only a gamble in a game that has more damage in their encounters.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
    I thought the point was to make all three healers meta, right? Isn't that what balanced means?
    Healing potencies was not what they needed most.
    Balanced to me means all healers being on the same playing field more or less. It'll never be perfect, but all healers as they are now can actually be considered.

    Also AST utility is not weak. Sure if you compare bloated WHM parses there's a big gap, but at 75th percentile the gap is not that large. Divination being 2 minutes will help more than you might think. 2 minutes is perfect for most raid buffs/burst phases.
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  10. #40
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
    Irrelevant when it doesn't even come close to making up for their terrible personal dps.
    It actually puts them on par with scholars pretty consistently. You can check the new RDPS metric for that data. Ast damage + buffs is in a good place rn compared to sch damage.
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