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  1. #21
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    IttyBitty's Avatar
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zolvolt View Post
    Absolutely sourgrapes about Energy Drain coming back. Gameplay wise Energy Drain does one thing: Makes it feel bad to use healing aetherflow. If damage aetherflow is an option it will ALWAYS make using healing aetherflow feel bad. Always. Sacred Soil got some amazing frequent use with the new Sch and not we're going to go back to only using it seldom to negate big damage. Your designers knew what they were doing when they removed Energy Drain and to bring it back because people who don't understand class design are crying about wanting more damage is just incredibly disappointing.
    Get over yourself. If Sacred Soil is indeed "worth it", then it will still see use. SCHs will not suddenly start burning their Aetherflow on CD on Energy Drain just because deeps, because that's not really how it was ever used anyway.

    Energy Drain was either your reward for optimising your healing (and thus a stack dump), or it was a risk you took and if your gamble failed, you paid for it pretty heavily (by having to resort to your less efficient GCD heals). Being able to take risks is vital for a compelling gameplay system. It also gives Dissipation more of a reason to continue existing, because you sure as hell weren't consistently spending your stacks before Aetherflow came off cooldown before, let alone having 6 to get rid of.
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  2. #22
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Well, SCH is still boring to play but at least it got energy drain back, so there's that.
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    Watching forum drama be like

  3. #23
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    Gaethan Tessula
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    The good news: SCH has an aetherflow dump again, AST gets to take off the body cast.

    The bad news: This is probably all we're getting, or at least the extent of the type of changes we'll see. Not scrapping Art of War, while also giving it 10 extra potency, does not inspire faith.

    Still not enough to convince me to level AST again. Even IF WHM drops back to third wheel.
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  4. #24
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    Lucius Magnus
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    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>

    NM, as pointed out below I missed the section of the Notes. lol
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    Last edited by Numenor1379; 07-30-2019 at 03:41 PM.

  5. #25
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaethan_Tessula View Post
    The bad news: This is probably all we're getting, or at least the extent of the type of changes we'll see. Not scrapping Art of War, while also giving it 10 extra potency, does not inspire faith.
    Replacing Art of War will probably take till 6.0. SE doesn't really do major overhauls until we get a new expac. (I mean... look how long Heavensward Bard and Stormblood White Mage took to get real changes...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>
    It's there, but there's a section for new actions.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>
    Look at "NEW ACTIONS HAVE BEEN ADDED"
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  7. 07-30-2019 03:36 PM

  8. #27
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    Ah ok, cool. I'm hopeful these changes will at least blunt the worst that SCH and AST have had... dunno if they will, but maybe. I am glad they didn't mess with WHM.
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  9. #28
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    I'm personally fine with the adjustments for the most part.
    Now, make Presence of Mind 120s and I'll be 100% fine with Healers in their current state.
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  10. #29
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Where are people seeing SCH getting ED back? It's not on the patch notes... >_>
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  11. #30
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    They forgot Collective Unconscious or something? That garbage bubble of 50 potency on top of not being able to do any action and a giant 90s cd. No cards/seals improvement. Sleeve Draw now gives you even more cards.....

    Sigh, at least healing can be smoother.
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