Should there be a toggle allowing the cast of Rescue on someone?

[Komarimono]

That's called Arm's Length/Surecast.

Pfffbt, 6 second duration and 120 second cool down. What, I'm supposed to try and guess when a healer is going to troll me, and perfect the exact timing window to prevent them pulling me around? My only counter has been to Shirk their arses, but then they cry and say I'm trolling them now. I just do a tit for tat, let them die and I go at my own pace again.

I'd rather they just remove it and add a skill that makes sense for a healer, not giving them something that removes control from another player. If someones bad, they'll be bad and either get better or not. Rescue isn't going to help them later on.

[White_Wolf_X]

No.

/10char.

[kidalutz]

Title. Rescue has its uses, but sometimes it can do more harm than help for a player, such as interrupting casts or sending them into an AoE. While Arm's Length/Surecast allows for temporary protection against an unwanted use of the skill, it is not always up for situations that such might happen. Sorry if this has already been posted before.

Counterargument:
A toggle permanently disabling cast of Rescue on a given player could present the following problems: It could prevent the healer from saving certain players in danger, or make it harder to find and report those that abuse the skill.

Counterargument:
A seatbelt could break bone in a car accident. Or any number of things could go wrong occassionally. More people agree they do more good than bad however.

[Kaethra]

Definitely should be something to opt into.

As more people use it to kill peeps in Labyrinth of the Ancients, the closer we'll get to seeing it removed or changed.

[Schan]

Interesting. I've never had rescue used on me in DF parties. I've yet to see it being used by trolls in DF. Maybe i'm lucky. However my static uses it to troll me.

In fact my static healers have always told me not to use rescue on randoms even though i still use it pretty often. More often than not rescue feels slow and people still end up dying to the stuff im trying to save them from u_u

[VillainQueen]

I'm WHM main and tbh I never use that skill. There is just too much salt involved with rescue so it's not even on my bar lol. If a person decides to stand in bad, well feel the consequences first hand and hope I can heal you up after.

[Komarimono]

Counterargument:
A seatbelt could break bone in a car accident. Or any number of things could go wrong occassionally. More people agree they do more good than bad however.

You control the seat belt, either using it or not even though only one option is legal the choices are there. And has nothing to do with a skill that takes control away from a character. But you did prove their point, using a seatbelt as the basis for your argument, kinda odd that...

[Enla]

Interesting. I've never had rescue used on me in DF parties. I've yet to see it being used by trolls in DF. Maybe i'm lucky. However my static uses it to troll me.

In fact my static healers have always told me not to use rescue on randoms even though i still use it pretty often. More often than not rescue feels slow and people still end up dying to the stuff im trying to save them from u_u

The issue with rescue is that it has pretty bad input lag that's highly affected by both your own ping and the ping of the player you rescue. For example I tried rescuing a friend in E4 during one of the 'smash' mechanics and had ample time to do it, but according to the game they were in the bad anyways in spite of clearly being out of it by the time they died. If they could fix the input lag it'd be a better skill - but as of now I only use it on super long casts where I know the lag won't play a factor. Tsukiyomi EX's meteors to help my co-healer if I see them not reacting fast enough, Amon's Curtain Call, to name a few. Anything faster than those though and you might as well not bother, unless you were fast enough to click rescue right as the cast bar started.

[van_arn]

Slow tanks hate it, learn how in one easy click

[Bacent]

Pfffbt, 6 second duration and 120 second cool down. What, I'm supposed to try and guess when a healer is going to troll me, and perfect the exact timing window to prevent them pulling me around? My only counter has been to Shirk their arses, but then they cry and say I'm trolling them now. I just do a tit for tat, let them die and I go at my own pace again.

I'd rather they just remove it and add a skill that makes sense for a healer, not giving them something that removes control from another player. If someones bad, they'll be bad and either get better or not. Rescue isn't going to help them later on.

It's called a joke, I'll be sure to state that next time I make one for clarity. This is just an issue people are throwing out of proportion. For every troll usage of Rescue there's more than a few people using it properly.