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    X89K1's Avatar
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    Calamitas Clone
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 2

    Should there be a toggle allowing the cast of Rescue on someone?

    Title. Rescue has its uses, but sometimes it can do more harm than help for a player, such as interrupting casts or sending them into an AoE. While Arm's Length/Surecast allows for temporary protection against an unwanted use of the skill, it is not always up for situations that such might happen. Sorry if this has already been posted before.

    Counterargument:
    A toggle permanently disabling cast of Rescue on a given player could present the following problems: It could prevent the healer from saving certain players in danger, or make it harder to find and report those that abuse the skill.
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    Ellisuur Muur
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    No thanks. If someone is standing out in the open instead of behind the giant rock the rest of us are hiding behind because they insist on "pushing dem leet deeps", I'm pulling them behind the damn rock. Dead dps does no dps and makes a run take longer, and I'd rather no waste a cd on rezing them. I get that some people abuse it, but there'd be just as many stubborn folk that insist they know more than the frustrated healer who's seen too many people die to unavoidable things if a anti-toggle were implemented.
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    Eriane Elis
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirhd View Post
    No thanks. If someone is standing out in the open instead of behind the giant rock the rest of us are hiding behind because they insist on "pushing dem leet deeps", I'm pulling them behind the damn rock. Dead dps does no dps and makes a run take longer, and I'd rather no waste a cd on rezing them. I get that some people abuse it, but there'd be just as many stubborn folk that insist they know more than the frustrated healer who's seen too many people die to unavoidable things if a anti-toggle were implemented.
    If they do this and toggle it so i can't rescue them, then they won't be rezz'd. I'll save it for someone else. When I rescue I do it because I know someone is going to get murdered. Sometimes I let someone get murdered so they will learn though. The power of the gods is on my side after all. mwahaha
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    Pond Hollow
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 90
    No thanks. Availing ourselves to the consequences of others' decisions is a healthy and intrinsic part of party play. Rescue is at times a way to interact with those people who love AOEs, and ways of interacting with party members are better than ways of not interacting.
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    Perfection is an unattainable ideal. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. - Cookingway

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    Sef Makaro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I’d be all for a toggle. If I die in an aoe it’s my fault. Healers should not be responsible for my positioning and honestly they should be capable of adjusting it for me. WoW has items that make abilities like rescue unusable on you, I always carried a stock of them. I’ve seen these abilities used for griefing far more often than good.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Makarrov View Post
    I’d be all for a toggle. If I die in an aoe it’s my fault. Healers should not be responsible for my positioning and honestly they should be capable of adjusting it for me. WoW has items that make abilities like rescue unusable on you, I always carried a stock of them. I’ve seen these abilities used for griefing far more often than good.
    If they are responsible for reviving you I'd say they should also get a say in preventing you from dying, considering it's their MP and cast time you're wasting when you die. Unless you have some sort of re-raise.
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    Wolf Ghaladia
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    Kujata
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    Samurai Lv 90
    A healer 'rescue' me while I playing as tank was trying to grab a stray add that was targeting a range DPS simply because I'm not in Asylum(Provoke wasn't ready). The healer was acting like a earlier too, I should have known.
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    Common sense is not so common anymore.

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    Komari Mono
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I personally hate it being used on me, since most times it is unneeded and trolling. Never been used to "save" me, most times a healer wanting to dictate how I tank. Examples I can list.

    During a boss mechanic, they were stupid and misread the cast bar, and pulled me away from the boss instead of letting me stay in melee range, resulting in my being knocked back into damage attacks. Healers using it to dictate how much I should pull in a dungeon, by running ahead and then using rescue to rip me into the mobs, the healer being an idiot when could barely keep me up with just 6-8 mobs on me due to poor DPS in the group and now I have 20+, I died. A healer who trolled me and ripped me out from behind a rock to kill themselves and me in the process to troll.

    I've yet to see it being used on me in a manner that is beneficial. So would love an option to get it removed from being used on me.
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    Sacha Amayro
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    I personally hate it being used on me, since most times it is unneeded and trolling. Never been used to "save" me, most times a healer wanting to dictate how I tank. Examples I can list.

    During a boss mechanic, they were stupid and misread the cast bar, and pulled me away from the boss instead of letting me stay in melee range, resulting in my being knocked back into damage attacks. Healers using it to dictate how much I should pull in a dungeon, by running ahead and then using rescue to rip me into the mobs, the healer being an idiot when could barely keep me up with just 6-8 mobs on me due to poor DPS in the group and now I have 20+, I died. A healer who trolled me and ripped me out from behind a rock to kill themselves and me in the process to troll.

    I've yet to see it being used on me in a manner that is beneficial. So would love an option to get it removed from being used on me.
    In Titania EX, there has been a few saved wipes because someone got hit by the knockback/fear she does, and the healer rescued them so they didn't fly/run off and we got that puddle.

    Any fight with an arena you can fall off, Rescue can be extremely beneficial.

    But like any ability, there is using it, and then there is using it well.
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    The Protector
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    Aegis
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Just remove it from the game.
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