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  1. #1
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    ICountFrom0's Avatar
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Hyperion
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    So i made an alt on Hyperion and have been entering and exiting Central shroud for 20 minutes, the only hiccup i have had with loading is accepting the very 1st quest which could be down to me being an EU resident on NA server getting a hiccup as much as bots.

    So few things i could gleam from this.
    1. they got the botters
    2. the botters have all stopped for now
    3. This has all been overexaggeration

    If this becomes a daily thing of zone crashing expect heavy action to be taken, if this has been a 1 off thing expect them to look into it to try and prevent it in the future, if this has been overexaggeration bravo you got me.
    I'd say that they got all the bots they wanted to level 5, and moved on to another region, so somewhere else is now undergoing crush. Where, I don't know, but somewhere in the world, the bots are active. How do I know? Multi thousand person deep ques, and being kicked out of the game every 5 to 10 minutes that I am in it.

    The game is being crushed to death under the weight of bots.
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    I'd say that they got all the bots they wanted to level 5, and moved on to another region, so somewhere else is now undergoing crush. Where, I don't know, but somewhere in the world, the bots are active. How do I know? Multi thousand person deep ques, and being kicked out of the game every 5 to 10 minutes that I am in it.

    The game is being crushed to death under the weight of bots.
    The servers were just hit by DDoS which explains the queue, we unfortunately get hit by these usually when they do a big ban wave which is comically sad when you think about it People make bots, SE bans bots, bot owner gets annoyed causing DDoS, SE tries making new anti DDoS maneuver rinse repeat.

    Before you even think about typing "just get better preventive measures" YOU DO IT, because you cannot prevent everything it is impossible DDoS will always be a thing, bots will always be a thing, so long as someone finds a way to cheat a system people will take the path of least resistance. The best you could hope for is increase the Bi-weekly bannings to weekly at this stage
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    The servers were just hit by DDoS which explains the queue, we unfortunately get hit by these usually when they do a big ban wave which is comically sad when you think about it People make bots, SE bans bots, bot owner gets annoyed causing DDoS, SE tries making new anti DDoS maneuver rinse repeat.

    Before you even think about typing "just get better preventive measures" YOU DO IT, because you cannot prevent everything it is impossible DDoS will always be a thing, bots will always be a thing, so long as someone finds a way to cheat a system people will take the path of least resistance. The best you could hope for is increase the Bi-weekly bannings to weekly at this stage
    I work for an ISP. We have layer upon layer of DDOS prevention for our commercial customers, which our residential customers benefit from as well. That's just our line of defense and doesn't take into account the business' end of prevention.
    There is no excuse for a company as large as SquareEnix to not have enough prevention measures in place that players will not be impacted. You know how hard it is to DDOS WoW? It's next to impossible now because they've put in so many layers. SquareEnix can easily afford to put more layers in place. The only excuse not to is sheer foolishness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    Proof of what OP is talking about, from Reddit. Please beware of foul language.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/FitAlertDelicataPrimeMe

    This is 100% a problem. OP may sound dramatic but this is preventing new people from enjoying the game sadly.

    This should be high on SE's radar when paying customers can't to basic quests and game functions because of Bots.
    This sort of thing leads to investors being scared to invest. Because they're smart enough to know this leads to a game people don't play if the problem is not addressed.
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    Last edited by CazzT; 07-26-2019 at 07:53 AM.

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    Nixx Delumi
    World
    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    This sort of thing leads to investors being scared to invest. Because they're smart enough to know this leads to a game people don't play if the problem is not addressed.
    Investors aren't likely to pay a lot of attention to something like this. They invest in SE as a whole, not FFXIV, and they're much more interested in changes in performance metrics than specific problems people are complaining about on the forums.
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