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  1. #1
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    ICountFrom0's Avatar
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Well, in truth my problem isn't the server, or the bots on it, but the inability for the GM's to do the job.

    So...

    Where is "everywhere"
    When is "continually
    what time is "now"
    what server is "all of them"
    And the issue is "the gm's are not allowed to fix thing"

    And, that's what I wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Well, in truth my problem isn't the server, or the bots on it, but the inability for the GM's to do the job.

    So...

    Where is "everywhere"
    When is "continually
    what time is "now"
    what server is "all of them"
    And the issue is "the gm's are not allowed to fix thing"

    And, that's what I wrote.
    That's not a technical support issue. If your complaint is that GMs don't have enough power to deal with bots, that doesn't belong in that forum.

    To be clear, is THIS the thread you're complaining got moved, or is there a separate thread you're talking about? Because this feels appropriate for the OP in THIS thread given it was more about what GMs can't do than a technical issue with the game. And if they were trying to 'hide' your thread they would delete it not put it in one of the busiest english forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Well, in truth my problem isn't the server, or the bots on it, but the inability for the GM's to do the job.

    So...
    The job is handled by a different set of people they clearly do not have the jurisdiction that the STF does because GMs handle plenty of other things, i hate to think how many false reports(not saying yours is) they have to go through on difference of playstyles etc
    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Where is "everywhere"
    Helpful really helpful you are lucky it got moved to General discussion i would've just not touched it or binned it, your OP states South Shroud yet later you talk about Central Shroud well which is it, you need to keep concise and to the point with as many exact details as possible
    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    When is "continually
    Ok more useful but a time frame from when you 1st noticed it occurred would be beneficial here
    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    what time is "now"
    Again no specifics Time zones are a thing Server time which is displayed above the mini-map would be far more useful
    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    what server is "all of them"
    That is Hyperbole and a Lie because you have no clue how to world visit so you cannot say every world at most you can say Hyperion
    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    And the issue is "the gm's are not allowed to fix thing"

    And, that's what I wrote.
    As stated earlier they cannot there is a dedicated team already being payed for dealing with this, GMs are given a different set of responsibilities, Bots are not one of them.

    You are very heated and you need to cool off you are not helping yourself if you are experiencing this problem as much as you claim go to New Gridania main aetheryte and visit another world continue your quest until you hear an official(something like this would get a response by SE saying when it is clear or congestion problems are dealt with etc) response by which point you could very well be long past it never to see it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    You are very heated and you need to cool off you are not helping yourself if you are experiencing this problem as much as you claim go to New Gridania main aetheryte and visit another world continue your quest until you hear an official(something like this would get a response by SE saying when it is clear or congestion problems are dealt with etc) response by which point you could very well be long past it never to see it again.
    And yet, if it's possible for bots to make an entire region (today it was central shrout) become inaccessible, then no, the job isn't being done.

    If one person does something wrong, they get punished and things get taken care of inside of 5 minutes.
    If one person does that same thing with a team of 100 bots, then "nothing can be done" apparently.

    I'll say it one more time.

    Picture a new player, picture them starting in gridania, picture them getting the first quest that has them leave town, and then they get an error message that tells them the game is broken, and they can't do it.

    Do you picture that person staying?

    Does this look like the experience that this game should be promoting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    And yet, if it's possible for bots to make an entire region (today it was central shrout) become inaccessible, then no, the job isn't being done.

    If one person does something wrong, they get punished and things get taken care of inside of 5 minutes.
    If one person does that same thing with a team of 100 bots, then "nothing can be done" apparently.

    I'll say it one more time.

    Picture a new player, picture them starting in gridania, picture them getting the first quest that has them leave town, and then they get an error message that tells them the game is broken, and they can't do it.

    Do you picture that person staying?

    Does this look like the experience that this game should be promoting?
    Time zones are a thing
    Its 9.30pm here in UK
    Its 5.30am in JP this problem will need to be sorted out by the JP developers and STF so yea ain't even going to be looked at for a few more hours at least

    So i'd reiterate calm yourself down working yourself up solves nothing at this stage, people have given you advice on a temporary means to your predicament at this point it is on you to try at do something to improve your gaming experience because right now the people who can deal with it are sleeping.
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    I logged in during lunch and tele'd to South Shroud without any problems. It wasn't even crowded.
    Edit: and my que was 46, I got in after about 15 seconds.
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    Last edited by Angus; 07-26-2019 at 05:39 AM.

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    Cirinwe Helcelwen
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    Bots are usually just an annoyance, but when they're actually congesting servers in the manner they currently are, it becomes a pretty significant problem. Players should have better tools to report bots, GMs should have better tools to ban bots, and devs should have better tools to prevent bots.

    As the game grows in popularity, so too will the number of people willing to exploit it.
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    The bot problem on Hyperion is crazy. I have plenty of photos of bots "hiding" inside the company chest in Ul'dah.
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    Xiala Narian
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    I'll have to check out Hyperion on an alt. If this is actually happening as described then yeah, it's a real problem, that should be addressed. And 'use world visit' is not an excuse.

    That said, the way the OP is written really makes me think this is being highly exaggerated for attention.
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