Lack of End Game Content

[Zabuza]

When comparing the Hardcore Raiding Crowd with the Casual Do Everything Crowd, there's one important distinction to be made. HC Raiding crowd tends to be more okay with cutting other content for theirs. You don't really see a lot of posts about cutting out production of Savage and Ultimate to make a new Gold Saucer attraction. As far as we know, the casual content of Expert Dungeons per patch was the cost of most of the casual/experimental content.

Also in terms of manpower, it was mentioned that Ultimates are only doable by about 3 members of the team. Not to say only 3 members are involved in the whole thing, but actually designing the encounter to be on that level is about 3 people. Sure art assets, animations, sound effects, etc are handled by way more, but their team itself lacks top 1%ers.

And much of the argument here seems to be, "I choose to not engage in a lot of content in order for me to say there is no content" vs. "There is a ton of content I can do whether I choose to engage in it or not". If one CHOOSES to play ONLY Paladin on Cutting Edge content... your gaming lifespan in almost any MMO is 2 months. If there is no loot lockout about 2 weeks. Considering FFXIV has easily the fastest content release cycle for the scope of content delivered. If you can find another MMO that releases 10 Raids every 6 Months then I'm sure the HC crowd would love it. (4 Normal 8, 4 Savage 8, 1 24 man, 1 Ultimate Is supposed to be all out every other patch. And this doesn't even include Extreme Trials which would add at least another 2 pieces of high end content per 6 months)



You managed to level 17 Adventurers, 8 Crafters, 3 Gatherers to 80, and capped out all of their gear to BiS, and made all of the necessary HC raiding consumables in 2 weeks. I'm impressed, or your not at endgame yet. I think the furthest along I've seen is 6-8 DoW/M and all DoH/L on anybody. And we still have another week until 5.0 is completely out as is...

Wow, this is extremely dishonest. You left out the context being that the casual crowd has repeatedly said that they have more content than they know what to do with. It's seriously like a 90% ratio of casual content to do in this game vs 10% being savage/ultimate, and that is being generous. Probably more like 95/5%. No duh that the raiding crowd is more okay with cutting casual content to receive some hardcore content, since it is heavily, heavily skewed in favor of casuals. Also no, casuals have not asked to cut savage/ultimate, they've only asked to make savage easier, which the devs have done, which is actually in a way cutting content since savage gets finished much quicker. They haven't asked specifically to cut savage/ultimate, they have just said 'no, we don't want raiders having any more content even though we already have 95% of the pie.' Stop being disingenuous, please.

You managed to level 17 Adventurers, 8 Crafters, 3 Gatherers to 80, and capped out all of their gear to BiS, and made all of the necessary HC raiding consumables in 2 weeks. I'm impressed, or your not at endgame yet. I think the furthest along I've seen is 6-8 DoW/M and all DoH/L on anybody. And we still have another week until 5.0 is completely out as is...

I'll just rebut this quote with another quote posted right under.

This whole thread is one dude asking for more endgame content and you're all torch and pitchforks at him.
Just going around in circles.
"I want more endgame content."
"Ok, but did you level all your jobs?"
"I want more endgame content."
"Ok, but did you finish your sightseeing logs?"
"I want more endgame content."
'Ok, but did you stock your entire Glamour dresser with clothes that look exactly the same every patch?
You get all mounts that you never use? You max gil? You flirted with everyone in Ul'dah?"
I mean damn guys lol.

No one is saying that isn't a lot to do in this game, because there is. It's just once you reach
the end of the road (80 in this case) you do the same thing you've done 6 years ago.
What's wrong with asking for more to do at max level? I don't get it lol.