Lack of End Game Content

[Zabuza]

Eh, based on what I've read from the thread since the beginning the "toxic elitist attitude" actually came from the other side, the number of thumbs up when someone dismisses raider posts is a good indicator.
It felt like a reasonable conversation until people started flexing how much content they had while ignoring the OP, who was actually kind of specific in what he meant (and which people kept ignoring). Then it devolved into insults and snide, people screaming at each other and the classic gatekeeping and ByeFelicia culture so useful to discussion and loved by forums everywhere, no matter the neutrality and calm explanations in the posts. So now we are at an impasse where a thread asking for more of a certain type of content and making suggestions about how to evolve said content has effectively been shut down.

If I may reuse the Themepark analogy. There is content everywhere, some people enjoy one type of content way more than the rest. I can't deal with rollercoasters but dangit I love me those "Win a prize-kinda-it's-rigged" games. Now in this case, FF14 is huge and has a lot of different attractions, but there are indeed more of a certain type than others. For players that enjoy rollercoasters, they may want something more thrilling and heart-stopping and that is indeed lacking in numbers. They may have tried the other attractions but they didn't like it and that's okay, you're not gonna love everything. They want more of the heart-stopper kind and they are calmly asking the park directors to make it happen.

Honestly, I want to have a feedback direct messaging that doesn't involve forums. You can't even leave a goodbye post, as cliché as it is, explaining why the game is no longer fun to you without major snark. This type of feedback is priceless to artists and Devs (granted it should favorably be precise and not insulting the Devs themselves is a good starting point).

Hilariously, you throw around the word toxic while throwing shade and somewhat insulting a part of the community while flexing about your dominance (albeit it's true that casuals are the majority, no one likes a show-off). If that ain't toxic then I should read the dictionary again.

Thank you for bringing a more neutral, level-headed perspective to this. I wish more people thought like you and were willing to accept that it is okay for raiders to want something they enjoy doing in this game. That's all I want. That, and for the devs to read this and consider the pleas of raiders in this thread.

I've said it before, but there's probably a myriad of reasons as to why.

However one thing that I can say is, the statement "There's literally no reason to step aside and let raiders have something" is false. Not agreeing with their reasons or logic isn't the same thing as it not existing. And people aren't going to willingly eat the loss of their content for yours, asking them to do so just won't happen. It would have to be a conscious and deliberate thing on SE's end. Can there be more high-end content? Sure, and perhaps there should be. However asking people to give up their content for people they perceive hate them isn't going to happen.

And "That's a perception manifested by the insecurities of others who can't clear those things." is not entirely true either. Like any group, raiders have their darkside as well. There are "hardcore" players that do treat those not apart of their group as beneath them. Even if the ratio of good and bad is heavily in the favor of good, the ones who are bad are going to more prevalent in the minds of those they affected. Just go to any community that has both a hardcore crowd and a casual crowd, and you will always see animosity going both directions.

If they have a surplus of content like they keep saying, then they'll still have content to eat up if a little is taken away, right? As to your second point, yes, you're correct. Though I haven't really seen any raiders in this thread implying that casuals are beneath them.