5.0 AST is a failure

[KanameYuuki]

I understand that point of view, but it would make more sense if we could change sect on the fly mid battle, and you know what, I really like that if it is indeed the new direction, I love Celestial Intersection and it would be great if Celestial Opposition was like that but on AOE, so maybe they can introduce in the future Celestial skills as the ones with effect of the opposite sect.

[Alfric]

I understand that point of view, but it would make more sense if we could change sect on the fly mid battle, and you know what, I really like that if it is indeed the new direction, I love Celestial Intersection and it would be great if Celestial Opposition was like that but on AOE, so maybe they can introduce in the future Celestial skills as the ones with effect of the opposite sect.

I totally agree! I don’t think there’s an all around good reason we cannot change our sect in the middle of a fight but maybe that would be OP? I don’t think so but I’m not a dev and it’s entirely possible that they tested it and it was. I personally am kinda glad that the cards are becoming less of the identity. I think a lot of people are angry that we’re just throwing out damage buffs now and I’m in total agreement. But that doesn’t have to be who we are as AST players. I personally am having a lot of fun playing in the moment. It feels really free.

[Alfric]

I understand what you're taking about and yes they may go towards that playstyle for ShB AST and they might be fun the only issue most of us find is the low reward we get for the gameplay caused by the low potencies for both heals and cards, once they 'fix' that I think we might see most AST, for my part I'm taking refuge on SCH (or SMN) till they fix the potencies, hopefully til 5.05

They are saying there are major balance changes in the next patch (is that this week btw?) so I am holding out hope!!

[Billythepancake]

They are saying there are major balance changes in the next patch (is that this week btw?) so I am holding out hope!!

I believe next Tuesday

[LalaRu]

I still don't understand why collective was nerfed to the root. No healer sane of mind will use a skill with near-zero healing and requiring you become a stone turret while that is active.

[Sanghelios]

I still don't understand why collective was nerfed to the root. No healer sane of mind will use a skill with near-zero healing and requiring you become a stone turret while that is active.

You should never use CU longer than just for applying the regen and the initial hit of a upcoming aoe. That was always the case, even with ST CU.

[Daralii]

It's kind of funny that 5.0 AST is facing several of the same problems as 3.0 AST, like high cost and low power heals and Nocturnal being useless. It feels like SE consistently lowballs the numbers for jobs with what's supposed to be a lot of utility because they overestimate the value of that aspect.

I'm still leveling it to 80, but Jesus Christ does Divination's cooldown make it feel awful to use.

[Yakugami]

There's been ONE case where I even thought of Undrawing, and was more out of spite than anything. When in a dungeon I had 2 caster DPS and got melee cards in all 3 Redraws, with the same seals to boot. Threw a Lord at the SMN after grumbling like a murloc.

ah, yes, i see
the only reason you'd want to use a trashy skill, is when the trashy mechanic makes you mad about how trashy it really is
i see why they added it

[Wolfius]

It's kind of funny that 5.0 AST is facing several of the same problems as 3.0 AST, like high cost and low power heals and Nocturnal being useless. It feels like SE consistently lowballs the numbers for jobs with what's supposed to be a lot of utility because they overestimate the value of that aspect.

I'm still leveling it to 80, but Jesus Christ does Divination's cooldown make it feel awful to use.

I know right maybe that's why we aren't getting new healers since HW, going back to square one over and over again next exp we're gonna see whm gutted again (plz don't lol)

[Nimloth]

It's kind of funny that 5.0 AST is facing several of the same problems as 3.0 AST, like high cost and low power heals and Nocturnal being useless. It feels like SE consistently lowballs the numbers for jobs with what's supposed to be a lot of utility because they overestimate the value of that aspect.

I'm still leveling it to 80, but Jesus Christ does Divination's cooldown make it feel awful to use.

It's kind of sad that Summoners get Devotion, which is a simple button press that gives a 5% damage up buff for 15 seconds on a 180s CD. When as an AST you have to get the three proper seals to get a 6% damage up buff for 15 seconds which is also on a 180s CD. Divination just feels bad in general.