Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[AnakhaSilver]

the question in my mind is that why don't they just outsource it?

Gestures at how far back FF7R ended up because of how much they had to scrap from the outsourced part

[Komarimono]

if it's just a matter of re-creating textures at a higher resolution then you're going to have to really sell it to me on how they could possibly screw something so simple like that

To bring some expertise into that comment, you can't simply upscale the textures and them look any good. They become pixelated and eventually distorted and blurry even if use the best tools in photoshop and maya or even mudbox. And the lower the base resolution, the worse it looks when upscaled. Even when using interpolation to keep the pixels as is and filling in the missing ones, the worst imho being Neighbor which just tries to match the pixel to the nearest one, but if spread out far looks muddy. Best option would be bi-cubic to sample further out from the pixel there, but again, if not pixels there to begin with it's replacing and trying to match.

Now, this is assuming they didn't keep the original products, since all of us that work in image and mesh always work in far higher resolutions then what final product will be. But if they didn't save them all, you're talking a lot of time recreating them.

[Alleo]

I can easily answer this for you in at least the why certain things are a clear No. Anything involving children in the Western Worlds is always a no. You never skirt the subject, you never leave that option open ever. It's a strong taboo, illegal, immoral etc. So "Youthful" "Young Looking" "Child Like" will always be responded to such a way with good reason.

The rest he has always left open though, not to flat out denying since there's always a chance it can happen or things could change. Most times there isn't a change, but it helps in a sense keep people interesting, a simple and effective tactic used in gaming in general.

But one should not claim rumors and opinions as fact, when they are not yet. That's my only stance. People putting their wishes and opinions as a factual base is a bad thing, everywhere in the world. It's just sad Zeylos is the one instigating and perpetuating it the most thinking his opinion as fact, when they shouldn't. "Taking 1.5 years for new races so others should be easier" Forgetting that their focus right now is progressing content through Shadowbringer first and foremost. Claiming Japanese want this and that, when I am Japanese and he doesn't speak for me, nor my friends and surely not the populace あほ

But you state it yourself: The rest ist up to interpretation. The problem some of us had was, that some posters used that now to tell us that this was a 100% no and that is wrong. Its a maybe. Of course one should not use it as a fact that Viera will happen but was it really necessary to bring that up in this thread because ONE person stated in another thread that he thinks that they might come at x. Its his opinion. Nothing more. Opinions are not necessary meant as facts.

None of us have facts. We only know that its problematic because of the amount of work and costs. And that there might be a big chance that they wont come. Also we have the fact that there is 100% no playable child coming (thankfully). Everything else will be speculation.

Everyone is also pushing their own agenda when giving their opinion. Those that dont want them have their agenda too. And that is fine.

It's 'roughly' my limit, yes. I like tall, muscular men but only when the proportions go up to a certain point. Highlander or a bit bigger is pretty much my limit, perhaps with a few exceptions. I don't have much interest in a Hrothgar or Roegadyn build since they're far too bulky to the point where they look comical to me.

It was the same issue I had with Draenei men back in WoW - their faces were great yet they were just too 'blocky' and oversized.

Well then it seems that we share some tastes even though I found that picture that Lauront posted already too much. I guess a nice muscle slider with that from Lauront as max and maybe the Elezen ones at min. would probably make a lot of people happy. d^^

WoW, for all its flaws, is adding an increasing amount of options for player characters over time. I don't doubt that FFXIV will need to follow suit at some point for fear of being left behind - especially with the older models looking rather dated next to some of the unique NPC models and newer environments.

I honestly still wished that we would have gotten a better character customization before a new race. (And I am a bit sad that seemingly Viera are not allowed to have scars..)

[zeylos]

To be honest, its competition right now that can give FF14 a run for its money is ESO, but due to the differences in play style - well there's the issue. I still believe the whole 'Best game of the year - so far' is something that they should eyeball and take into consideration and not just go 'well we did that with it being in this state, everything is fine.' Hopefully, the suits give Yoshida an increase in budget.

World of Warcraft is also a great game that even in this dreadfully wrong expansion has many more players than FFXIV will most likely ever have, and I think that going by their interviews and such the next expansion will be great on all fronts (like how after WoD, which was worse than BFA, came Legion, one of their best expansiosn ever), and it's XIV main competitor currently, having many more players than ESO will ever have

[SturmChurro]

ESO sucks, in my opinion. It's godawfully boring, and the character creator isn't even as good as people make it out to be. It barely changes anything and everyone's character pretty much look exactly the same at a glance. It has a lot of "options", but it's an illusion of choice. The most it has that looks unique are faces and even then. People differentiate themselves more with cash shop items. ludicrously priced cash shop items (loot boxes too). The combat is horrible, I personally think it's extremely boring, and actually a chore. I hate switching weapons just to use more than 4 skills - and you have to switch constantly to play effectively.

Don't get me wrong I still play that game off and on, but that's because I like Elder Scrolls in general. I really just play it for the story and lore.

[zeylos]

ESO sucks, in my opinion. It's godawfully boring, and the character creator isn't even as good as people make it out to be. It barely changes anything and everyone's character pretty much look exactly the same at a glance. It has a lot of "options", but it's an illusion of choice. The most it has that looks unique are faces and even then. People differentiate themselves more with cash shop items. ludicrously priced cash shop items. The combat is horrible, I personally think it's extremely boring, and actually a chore. I hate switching weapons just to use more than 4 skills.

Don't get me wrong I still play that game off and on, but that's because I like Elder Scrolls in general. I really just play it for the story and lore.

I've never really played ESO online actually. I tried it out hwen it was free trial for 3 days and I didnt really enjoy the gameplay too much. That being said, I adored the class system, adn I think its likely that from now on many MMOs will try to copy it. I can see SW's next MMO, which I think will be out in like... 6-7-8 years? Will likely have that class system

[SturmChurro]

I've never really played ESO online actually. I tried it out hwen it was free trial for 3 days and I didnt really enjoy the gameplay too much. That being said, I adored the class system, adn I think its likely that from now on many MMOs will try to copy it. I can see SW's next MMO, which I think will be out in like... 6-7-8 years? Will likely have that class system

The one good thing about ESO is crafting, and gear. There are tons of various builds you can make, and make them effective via gear sets. I also like the housing system to an extent, but it's ridiculously monetized to where I don't enjoy it; I wish it was more reliant on crafting. You can get diagrams for cool gearsets and craft those too, forgot to add that. A lot of cool looking sets in that game.

My last main mmorpg was SWTOR, PoT5 server (NA east PvP server known for being "toxic"). I loved it, was a huge star wars fan, loved the story and the community/friends I made playing it. Aggressively monetized though. If they did come out with another SW mmo it probably would be some live-service garbage, heavily monetized.

Didn't address the class system, already talked about builds. Yes, this is a personal opinion, but I actually like the "holy trinity". I feel like classes are somewhat meaningless and muddled in that game. I like a class to have a firm identity. I only really play a high elf magicka sorcerer though, as I've said before I don't really play alts. I have alts on that game, but for PvP. Like my stam nightblade wood elf, melee magicka sorc orc, imperial stam dragonknight tank, dark elf magicka dragonknight, dark elf warden healer... actually I guess I do play alts a lot.. I think crafting alts are useful too, crafting is a huge investment in that game to get leveled with all the research and the length it takes to actually get everything.

[zeylos]

The one good thing about ESO is crafting, and gear. There are tons of various builds you can make, and make them effective via gear sets. I also like the housing system to an extent, but it's ridiculously monetized to where I don't enjoy it; I wish it was more reliant on crafting. You can get diagrams for cool gearsets and craft those too, forgot to add that. A lot of cool looking sets in that game.

My last main mmorpg was SWTOR, PoT5 server (NA east PvP server known for being "toxic"). I loved it, was a huge star wars fan, loved the story and the community/friends I made playing it. Aggressively monetized though. If they did come out with another SW mmo it probably would be some live-service garbage, heavily monetized.

Didn't address the class system, already talked about builds. Yes, this is a personal opinion, but I actually like the "holy trinity". I feel like classes are somewhat meaningless and muddled in that game. I like a class to have a firm identity. I only really play a high elf magicka sorcerer though, as I've said before I don't really play alts. I have alts on that game, but for PvP. Like my stam nightblade wood elf, melee magicka sorc orc, imperial stam dragonknight tank, dark elf magicka dragonknight, dark elf warden healer... actually I guess I do play alts a lot.. I think crafting alts are useful too, crafting is a huge investment in that game to get leveled with all the research and the length it takes to actually get everything.

Actually, I never played SWTOR but heard lots of good things about it. I just learned that about ESO btw, and that sounds amazing tbh.

Personally, I think a system where u have healers dps and tanks but u build them to your liking, like a more DPS healer, would be ideal

[Rakshazi]

Yep, I'm wholeheartly agree with the addition of male Viera in the game. Lorewise lock is ridculous and can't be even considered a serious objection against them - we already have female Roegadyn and male Miqo'te. More than that, eve if lorewise males are reclusive and don't show themselves for anyone but feamle Viera in the time they need that - it makes no sence in the First, where's no place to hide after the Flood. So, come on, SE! Stop this stupid genderlocking in 2019 in the game, where you can literally be anyone you want without any job restrictions! The thing that I don't have to create dozens of twinks to level up all classes is one of the biggest reasons a I love this game! i could be any race and class and it was fun and then - boom - genderlock. This was so much dissapointment... I've played Lalafell since the start, tryed other races, and yet come back to Lalafell. But if you add the male Viera - I WILL change my race, because they are so cool.

[Rakshazi]

God damn it, Square. We thought you learned from your mistake of genderlocking after 1.0 but it seems not. This will NEVER leave the front page of these forums until both genders are implemented for both races. You’ve shot yourselves in the foot massively here. Instead of just producing both genders for one race, you’ll now be hounded and pressured to make 4 collective genders for two races. No one asked for Hrothgar and ESPECIALLY for it to be genderlocked at that.

Nice job, Square. Also, why no new healer? It’s almost as if they want to receive a mass amount of criticism, huh.

Agree. Who did EVER asked for Hrothgar? No one. We asked Viera since the game was started. The hype I had when I saw the trailer of races was sooooo damn big and it all was crushed under stupid lore-excuse. No deal, SE, no deal. There is the saying in my family - "If you do something - do it well, because bad things could make them themselves". So, please, SE. If you adding new races (especialy so iconic as Viera) - make it good. No one asked you for half of the race. You could just don't add it in the first place with such policy and stupid lore excuses.