Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

I don't disagree, they do look strong and imposing, but a muscle tone slider would go a long way. It's also why I hope they add one for Viera should they add the males.

Agreed. I think it should be standard across the board at this point. I'm fairly optimistic that it'll be one of their customisation options if they're added, though.

With that said, I found some of the naming convention stuff to be a disappointment. The game has an unfortunate obsession with cutting away the stuff that makes each race unique when it comes to setting off into the world as an adventurer.

Interesting, so you see Highlanders as the max amount of muscles to what you enjoy but still wanted Byakko type for Hrothgar? And seeing some posts here (especially with Sturms art) even that type for Viera?

I am just a bit curious because I honestly thougth with the posts in this thread that you wanted really muscled men and that Midlanders, Elezen or even Highlanders was not enough for male Viera.

But I agree with you, I find that muscles beyond Highlanders often turn out a bit strange. (Not that people cant like that)

Of course any male Viera is better than none but I still hope that they fit with the females.

It's 'roughly' my limit, yes. I like tall, muscular men but only when the proportions go up to a certain point. Highlander or a bit bigger is pretty much my limit, perhaps with a few exceptions. I don't have much interest in a Hrothgar or Roegadyn build since they're far too bulky to the point where they look comical to me.

It was the same issue I had with Draenei men back in WoW - their faces were great yet they were just too 'blocky' and oversized.

[Lauront]

Agreed. I think it should be standard across the board at this point. I'm fairly optimistic that it'll be one of their customisation options if they're added, though.

With that said, I found some of the naming convention stuff to be a disappointment. The game has an unfortunate obsession with cutting away the stuff that makes each race unique when it comes to setting off into the world as an adventurer.

It's silly. I would have been happier if they at least provided some kind of consistency to the types of names they take on in their new life, e.g. since it's likely to be in Dalmasca, something inspired by that.

[Mochamonarch]

Agreed. I think it should be standard across the board at this point. I'm fairly optimistic that it'll be one of their customisation options if they're added, though.

I highly doubt we're going to be given a muscle slider, most likely they're going to have one body type like the other races and we're just getting an ears slider. One thing I noticed about ff14 is that they like to keep their "uniqueness" as tightly clutched as possible. This was evident when people asked for a moonstone/obsidian carbuncle glam option, and SE refused saying it was unique to the NPS and would make them less special to give them to PCs.

Obviously the muscle slider is the Hyur unique option, so I don't think they're going to give it to the Viera as it would make Hyurs less unique customization wise, we'll get to have some big-ass ears though.

[Theodric]

I highly doubt we're going to be given a muscle slider, most likely they're going to have one body type like the other races and we're just getting an ears slider. One thing I noticed about ff14 is that they like to keep their "uniqueness" as tightly clutched as possible. This was evident when people asked for a moonstone/obsidian carbuncle glam option, and SE refused saying it was unique to the NPS and would make them less special to give them to PCs.

Obviously the muscle slider is the Hyur unique option, so I don't think they're going to give it to the Viera as it would make Hyurs less unique customization wise, we'll get to have some big-ass ears though.

WoW, for all its flaws, is adding an increasing amount of options for player characters over time. I don't doubt that FFXIV will need to follow suit at some point for fear of being left behind - especially with the older models looking rather dated next to some of the unique NPC models and newer environments.

[Keridwyn]

Obviously the muscle slider is the Hyur unique option, so I don't think they're going to give it to the Viera as it would make Hyurs less unique customization wise, we'll get to have some big-ass ears though.

As a longtime femroe player I can state that femroes also have a muscle slider so it's not just Hyurs! I believe it's actually given to any race that doesn't possess adjustable ears or a tail, taking up the slot that slider uses instead.

I was stating what I had wish they had done from the outset. You will note I said a man can dream in regards to going back to rework Au Ra to that extent, i.e. it's beyond the point of no return.

Adding a third clan could work but yes, they would parcel it off in the "too much work" area. The most we can hope for is a muscle tone slider, given their past comments on the subject.

Apologies but it sounded less like the outset and more like them re-editing the models now. Sorry for misinterpreting you.