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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Rox View Post
    The fact that you claim it's only in PvP shows how biased you are. I implore you go do some PF runs of CURRENT Ex/Savage content. Or actually, even some nice casual 24 mans. If you say the toxicity doesn't exist there, then...sorry, you're just lying.

    By your logic we shouldn't be allowed to chat anywhere in the game. Your examples are extreme examples which, quite frankly, are nothing more than a straw man. Please kindly reconsider how your respond to the topic at hand until you're ready to leave emotionally charged buzz words out of it. It's fairly safe to assume that most players don't want folks getting cancer wished upon them and whatnot.
    Biased?

    It's called experience. I've been playing this game since ARR, witnessed and ran through almost every savage, many times without a static, outright pugging savage fights, ex primals, running through thousands of dungeons, I've completed I'd say 90% of the extreme primals of all expansions, and most of them I did it with people who I did not know. Yes, you come across the occasional douche that will complain even about the silliest thing, and the tank/healer disputes pop up occasionally too.

    However, compare this with the amount of malodorous, insane and obnoxious garbage I've witnessed when I played PVP and you instantly realize that PVE is like a paradise of good behaviour.
    Insulting personal messages, chat flooding with hello! followed by an ignore mark spammed on your head every second for the next 3 minutes (you'd think removing chat would stop toxicity right? think again).
    And it's not just this game.

    Tekken? Personal message through PSN telling you that you are a spammer and that you should kill yourself (along with disconnects at the very last second so that your opponent knows you won't get your points).

    League of Legends? Getting wished cancer is probably the softest sort of flame you'll receive if anyone thinks they've lost a ranked match because of you.

    Overwatch? Again, nasty stuff regarding what hero you should pick or stop picking because someone considers the team is losing because of you. From threatening messages to any sort of hate mail.

    Could go on forever.

    And then you'd think...perhaps I'm the problem right? Perhaps the harassment is justified and I'm actually dragging my team down so people are often mad at me? But how does that make any sense when you have a 70% winning rate League of Legends Diamond rank account? Wanna know the answer? Even with a 70% winning rate you still lose, and when that happens flame occurs. It's automatic.

    And then you have PVE, things like Resident Evil 5 and mercenaries, which I played for hundreds of hours and had not received a single insult (not a freaking single insult throughout months) even when things went wrong and me and my ally were bitten to death because of my fault. Could give you a lot of more examples like RE5 but the wall of text is big enough already.

    Biased?

    More like 15 years of gaming online experience on my shoulders seeing what kind of stuff you come across in PVE and what kind of stuff you come across in PVP.

    Oh and I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to chat. I'm not the one deciding to remove the chat because PVP communities behave like monkeys with anger issues. Companies do that. Have you ever asked yourself why the FFXIV PVE chat is not disabled while the PVP one is?

    Like yeah, keep lying to yourself, for what I care.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 07-22-2019 at 02:15 AM.