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    NyneSwordz's Avatar
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    Dugu Qiubai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alathon View Post
    Asking questions is one of the most beneficial and necessary steps in learning something. After about a dozen Feast training matches and two victories on WHM and SCH, it sure would help if I could ask questions. I had a lot to ask, and even if I didn't, I bet the people I was matched with would have been glad to offer advice unsolicited.

    Some of it would have been helpful. Some of it not so much. Some of it would have been counterproductive, a product of their frustration with whatever noobish mistakes I made....... that they were not permitted to inform me about. I still don't know what I did wrong, some of those matches I had better healing numbers than the winning team's healer. Was it bad DPS or tank? Was it bad luck? Was it a question of positioning, or timing, or resource allocation? Fuck if I know, because the people who could tell me are not permitted to do so.

    And for what? To cater to pantywaists who become emotionally distressed when people say mean things about their play in a video game? Do such people even want to engage with PvP content other than to check some box or acquire some silly pixel-points?

    If there is a compelling reason for player communication to be disabled I would be very interested to hear it.
    Dude you assume you'd get constructive feedback or tips in Feast. You won't. No one is going to make the effort to teach you how to play. You're just going to get heckled at and berrated until you quit completely.

    I don't think having chat is worth the aggravation of having to be forced to listen to toxic babies who can't handle losses in a videogame.

    With that said, I'm fine with an option for people to opt in and out of feast chat. Id that happens, I hope you enjoy and "learn" from the thousands of "l2p" and various profanities hurled your way.
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    Nova_Rox's Avatar
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    Eternal Arcadia
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneSwordz View Post
    Dude you assume you'd get constructive feedback or tips in Feast. You won't. No one is going to make the effort to teach you how to play. You're just going to get heckled at and berrated until you quit completely.

    I don't think having chat is worth the aggravation of having to be forced to listen to toxic babies who can't handle losses in a videogame.

    With that said, I'm fine with an option for people to opt in and out of feast chat. Id that happens, I hope you enjoy and "learn" from the thousands of "l2p" and various profanities hurled your way.
    That's a big yikes from me, dawg
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    Tanama's Avatar
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    Jenity Dionysus
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneSwordz View Post
    Dude you assume you'd get constructive feedback or tips in Feast. You won't. No one is going to make the effort to teach you how to play. You're just going to get heckled at and berrated until you quit completely.

    I don't think having chat is worth the aggravation of having to be forced to listen to toxic babies who can't handle losses in a videogame.

    With that said, I'm fine with an option for people to opt in and out of feast chat. Id that happens, I hope you enjoy and "learn" from the thousands of "l2p" and various profanities hurled your way.
    I believe this. A friend of mine that used to PvP often told me that their own random teammates in the Feast would go out of their way to sabotage and throw away the match if they didn't like the way you played.
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    Commander_Justitia's Avatar
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    Ash Primordial
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanama View Post
    I believe this. A friend of mine that used to PvP often told me that their own random teammates in the Feast would go out of their way to sabotage and throw away the match if they didn't like the way you played.
    How does having a chat or not having that chat change the behavior of that player ? If anything, it would be easier to report him if he insults somebody, as GM can deal faster with chatlog proof.


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    It would help if it would be possible to instantly mute players in-match chat and player-quickchatpings separately on the scoreboard. Introduce a better way to 1click report pvp issues and deal with them more swiftly. Every game has toxic players, it just becomes an issue when there is no punishment or superdetailed and slow report options like atm. Just rightclick on playername, report, reason, text and done would be better.

    Tbh I think SE is more concerned about having experienced players prepare chat macros that increase their chance of winning than about the toxicity issue. They want to force a low skill ceiling to appeal new players.
    with sideeffect: less work for a GM, so there are reasons why they don't like to add it again. I think however, that the possibility to talk with other PvP players without having to add them as friend, is pretty vital to the mode itself and the playerbase in PvP, or it stays a faceless community and only develops outside of FF14 in discords.
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