Lack of End Game Content

[xxvaynxx]

Are you serious? you're the one who doesn't seem to know that the content for a max level character in this game is lacking. I've been here since ARR beta so drop the snide remarks.

I've also been here since ARR sooo~.....
Saying that doesn't give you validation.

There is a lot of stuff to do, its just you don't want to do it.
What I think the OP wants is battle content maybe.

Atm there is a lot of stuff to level, craft,gather, gear, do shared fates, heck even third party stuff like parse.
Its not my fault you and others thinking the same thing doesn't want to do that.

[Jojokomoko]

I've always been here since ARR sooo~.....
Saying that doesn't give you validation.

There is a lot of stuff to do, its just you don't want to do it.
What I think the OP wants is battle content maybe.

Atm there is a lot of stuff to level, craft,gather, gear, do shared fates, heck even third party stuff like parse.
Its not my fault you and others thinking the same thing doesn't want to do that.

Read my comment again, I specifically said "Challenging content to do at level 80".

And you're the one who brought up that Heavensward remarks first so what the hell is your point?

[grinkdaboy]

Legion's critically acclaimed success begs to differ.

kind of funny when legion is sandwiched between 2 terrible expansions

[xxvaynxx]

Read my comment again, I specifically said "Challenging content to do at level 80".

And you're the one who brought up that Heavensward remarks first so what the hell is your point?

The first point was to say you REALLY don't want to wait 6 months for new content which when HW first started. We didnt get any new content for I think...4 months? or 5.
People were so starved for content the halloween quest, so many people logged on just to do something new the servers crashed.
Hence why I said you have no idea what you're saying if you think the community could handle a long delay for patch. Go play something else if you want that. I'm happy with our fast patch cycle thank you.

And challenging content is coming. Savage is in two weeks.
The normal player base is not even going to clear savage by the time 5.1 comes out.

[Insertcoins]

The first point was to say you REALLY don't want to wait 6 months for new content which when HW first started. We didnt get any new content for I think...4 months? or 5.
People were so starved for content the halloween quest, so many people logged on just to do something new the servers crashed.
Hence why I said you have no idea what you're saying if you think the community could handle a long delay for patch. Go play something else if you want that. I'm happy with our fast patch cycle thank you.

And challenging content is coming. Savage is in two weeks.
The normal player base is not even going to clear savage by the time 5.1 comes out.

THIS. People tend to forget the start of HW was horrible and that 4 to 5 month break nearly killed the masses. Noone is going to wait 6 months for content only a tiny bit of the playerbase is goign to do. NOONE. I still say right now is abit too early to be complaining about lack of endgame when we're not even a month into the new expac. And like you said... most likely a good 80% of people won't even finish THAT. SHIT people can't finish LEVELING dungeons NOW. You know how many wipes I've seen BEFORE 80? Too many.

[LadyKairi]

It’s too early to complain? Mate, the content has been the same for years now. As long as the formula doesn’t change, we know what to expect. Yoshida even said what difficulty they’re aiming for, which I can tell you right now won’t even keep the midcore occupied until the next tier. Like I said in this very thread, my static is by no means a hardcore or highly skilled group. We are about average. Even for us the only time we couldn’t finish a tier before the next tier was in Alexander. Since then, they’ve kept lowering the difficulty to try and make it more accessible to the more “casual” player base. In turn, it lowered the amount of time it kept us busy, because people were clearing them faster.

We have just cause to complain/give feedback now. It’s the same thing over and over and over. The new expansion being just launched and haven’t gotten this tier yet doesn’t matter when it’s following in the same footsteps as the last two expansions.

Also y’all need to stop saying “if they add another boss then the game turns into a job. They want you to spend time with your families and play other things”.

1) adding a single boss to the mix will not turn it into a job. I find it funny how people who don’t even do the content and know how long it takes the average raider to beat the content are making these assumptions. It’s just false. Only the best of the best/world first groups blow through it in a week or so. They are a minority within our group.

2) I can’t speak for anyone else, but I spend plenty of time off the game. Especially after my dad died. I make it a point to take care of my RL responsibilities first. If my friends or family want to do something, I tell my static I can’t make it. We raid a few days a week for a few hours, and more often than not, that is my only game time. I don’t need someone telling me to spend more time with my loved ones, when I spend plenty with them as it is.

3) I don’t want to play any other game. I’ve tried a ton of different games, but none keeps my attention like XIV. Plus my FC that I want to spend time with is on this game. I’m also second in command, so I want to be there and support my online family. Other games don’t have them. This game is what I enjoy. My escape from irl. I shouldn’t be punished for wanting to keep playing or supporting a game that I’ve been dedicated to for years and adore.

[Insertcoins]

It’s too early to complain? Mate, the content has been the same for years now. As long as the formula doesn’t change, we know what to expect. Yoshida even said what difficulty they’re aiming for, which I can tell you right now won’t even keep the midcore occupied until the next tier. Like I said in this very thread, my static is by no means a hardcore or highly skilled group. We are about average. Even for us the only time we couldn’t finish a tier before the next tier was in Alexander. Since then, they’ve kept lowering the difficulty to try and make it more accessible to the more “casual” player base. In turn, it lowered the amount of time it kept us busy, because people were clearing them faster.

We have just cause to complain/give feedback now. It’s the same thing over and over and over. The new expansion being just launched and haven’t gotten this tier yet doesn’t matter when it’s following in the same footsteps as the last two expansions.

Also y’all need to stop saying “if they add another boss then the game turns into a job. They want you to spend time with your families and play other things”.

1) adding a single boss to the mix will not turn it into a job. I find it funny how people who don’t even do the content and know how long it takes the average raider to beat the content are making these assumptions. It’s just false. Only the best of the best/world first groups blow through it in a week or so. They are a minority within our group.

2) I can’t speak for anyone else, but I spend plenty of time off the game. Especially after my dad died. I make it a point to take care of my RL responsibilities first. If my friends or family want to do something, I tell my static I can’t make it. We raid a few days a week for a few hours, and more often than not, that is my only game time. I don’t need someone telling me to spend more time with my loved ones, when I spend plenty with them as it is.

3) I don’t want to play any other game. I’ve tried a ton of different games, but none keeps my attention like XIV. Plus my FC that I want to spend time with is on this game. I’m also second in command, so I want to be there and support my online family. Other games don’t have them. This game is what I enjoy. My escape from irl. I shouldn’t be punished for wanting to keep playing or supporting a game that I’ve been dedicated to for years and adore.

But how do you answer adding more work for thigs that won't even be used by half the people in this very thread? Look I'm not against more endgame, but my issue is half the time the people complaining don't do what we have. Maybe more people need to do what we have so SE will have the numbers we want more. Cause I'm sorry... if the numbers don't reflect the yelling then why should they do something?

[testname]

I've also been here since ARR sooo~.....
Saying that doesn't give you validation.

There is a lot of stuff to do, its just you don't want to do it.
What I think the OP wants is battle content maybe.

Atm there is a lot of stuff to level, craft,gather, gear, do shared fates, heck even third party stuff like parse.
Its not my fault you and others thinking the same thing doesn't want to do that.

^ This

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I am surprised, that people are surprised about raids in general or updates, it has been like this for ages, update +1 dungeon and raids, or trials, and that is it.

The Eorzea is much more than just trial/raid

[Avraym]

kind of funny when legion is sandwiched between 2 terrible expansions

Absolutely - but Legion was still a smash.

[Ibkee]

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Except nobody is asking for just one more boss to be added. Literally SE could add 10 more bosses and people would beat them then come in here to moan, but that's besides the point.

You basically want to have your cake and eat it. You keep yelping "I don't want to play any other game", but then moan about Final Fantasy XIV being Final Fantasy XIV. Nobody is punishing you, you are punishing yourself by limiting yourself to an experience that simply doesn't tick the boxes you want it to.

Obviously not everything with the game is perfect, but no game is perfect and it all comes down to what you're willing to overlook. Clearly this issue is not one you are willing to overlook because you are here, despite being aware the game will not change it's formula to accommodate you, endlessly posting about it. When even the game's Producer/Director says he wants people to take breaks, unsub, play other games, do other things, then well, that's just Final Fantasy XIV.