Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[zeylos]

Wanna chime in and make a correction here.

As of the latest Census that I know of Hrothgar are legit tied with Male Elezen in numbers and more popular than the combined total Roes (as in males and Females). Which is no small feat given that male elezen saw an increase in players at the same time. Also there's around a 8K difference between them and Roebros.

Depending on how Female Hrothgar are designed they can be far more popular than I personally thought they would be (which was "less than Femroe" at first. Femroe aren't popular because of their design and body shape).

All that is kinda beside the point of adding them anyway so it's pretty moot.



In the interview Yoshi talked about new hair styles and faces it seemed pretty clear he knew he was talking about new faces when he commented on that.

As in we got a definite yes to new hair styles and a "Yeah, we'll prob have to do that to. The team is ready" for new faces.

Actually ,thanks for letting me know, I was referring to a previous one. Anyways, we can see that beast races aren't that popular at all (mostly because, like I said, most players, or at least a very good chunk of them, are either into anime, japanese culture or anime asthetics, not into western ones. Hence why on games like WoW, where tis the opposite, beast races are so popular), and male viera would certainly beat male hrotgar numbers, but, that isnt the point, and after all it dosent even really matter. The point is, I speculate that female hrotgar will be extremely unpopular if they do them like they should, imo, beaslike, which wouldnt make them money, but I think that male viera has al the points to become super popualr and give em enough money (theyre the elegant/graceful, handsome and attractive elven styled race that this game lacks, elezen arent really any of that, they like, giraffes with akward anims) so that It wouldnt matter if fem hrotgar are unpopular, and I wouldnt not only mind playing them, but I would love seeing them arround from time to time. Is like, femroe is my favourite race (though I prefer to main a more elegant character).

Oh and dont get me wrong, I hope fem hrotgar would be as popular as fem miqote xD, but I certainly think its extremely unlikely

[zeylos]

Yeah, I played Femroe for years, They're pretty awesome but I can easily see why more people don't play them. For example, you HAVE to be careful with how you dress them cause not everything is gonna look "right" on their body. As in, you can easily look like a man wearing female clothing in some female tops. You can easily look manly af which isn't too appealing to anyone playing a female toon.

I loved my Femroe but SE really screwed the pooch on them design wise. People don't seem to realize that SE want to make things look at least attractive by their JPN standards. Problem is they took a race of tall, soft, wide dudes and instead of making the females tall, soft and curvy (Thic) they made them tall and ripped ... and tossed in the bigg tits. Femroe turned out far from the "Snu Snu" body shape that I could see many playing and landed in "Sports instructor" lands.

I have no clue what they would do with Female Hrothgar. Depends on what they feel the defining traits of the race are. Some people think the defining traits are hunched over, big, buff, beastly. The devs can easily think that the traits are Animal head, fur and "laser focused on battle" as Yoshi put it and make something based on playing with that. For as big and ripped Femroe are they don't portray strength as much as Highlander Females for example so who knows.

Personally I think the Female Ronso look more like highlander females body wise so when I think about it my image of Female Hrothgar are animal headed highlander girls that have Sukeban themed animations. Not hunched over cause that looks terribad on people with breast but just as bad ass cause Sukeban.

In my opinion ,female roes anre great, and not all female characters need to be femenine or attractive waifus. Also, I do enjoy having manly women as my alts (hence why I like femroes so much) and I would have certainly not, for anything on this world, wanted female roes too look any less strong than they do (this is just my opinio ofc, u can have your own). I hope female hrotgar will look at least as strong as them, and not be some thicc waifus (again, just my opinion).

Also, by looking at their description I think female hrotgar emotes will be super elegant and regal ,considering that they literally queens

[zeylos]

There's been changes to male hrotgar lore. I belive it says that theres many queens?

[reivaxe]

You are correct here, but there is an issue: July statistic isn't very accurate:

They are the most accurate we have right now. How that holds up over time? Who knows. Wont know til we get more.

Stuff

Not interested in indulging your strange complex over Hrothgar or popularity, just came to point out the bad info being spread.
If you wanna talk numbers then just look em up, don't make em up.

[Lauront]

Same as with Au Ra face/horns issue... but few times worse, because hair are much important for character's fashion.



You are correct here, but there is an issue: July statistic isn't very accurate:

1. It's the start of the expnasion so there is a bunch of Returner players, who will likely leave the game again (and so they will leave "Active Players" section);
2. Some players swapped just to look at new race, not for maining it (as it was with Au Ra);
3. Some players swapped to try it, would be disappointed and so they will return to their original races (as it was with Au Ra).

At this, point, amount of Hrothgars (same as amount of Viera) would decrease a bit later. I would say that proper statistic with players who is actually sticked with new races will show up somewhere in August, maybe even September.

Though I think Hrothgars would be more popular than Roes anyway, their proportions are better, expect hunched back.

Still, from SE's POV, even if they don't stick with it, it's a lot of Fantasia revenue, so at least an initial lump of cash. The longer term focus in evaluating the investment would be on whether enough play it to justify on-going work that the race would require but I imagine the ratio for that is some way below where male Roes sit even.

[Halivel]

Still, from SE's POV, even if they don't stick with it, it's a lot of Fantasia revenue, so at least an initial lump of cash. The longer term focus in evaluating the investment would be on whether enough play it to justify on-going work that the race would require but I imagine the ratio for that is some way below where male Roes sit even.

Sure, I don't argue with is. In fact, if people don't stick with new race it has... ehm, some benefits for SE too: they will sell 2 Fantasias instead of 1 or maybe even 3 if player tried to play with both Viera and Hrothgar.

[Theodric]

They'd see a lot of Fantasia revenue if they updated the customisation system for the older races which, at this point, are starting to look a little dated next to the newer models and environments.

[armandojc3]

When this whole debacle started I actually thought the hrothgar were a cool option to have.

Now that ive played both races I wish to join this initiative for male vieras. The female viera are so cool, have great and original animations, the lore for the males is already there and honestly the hrothgar suck. Its a shame we got them instead of a cool male viera.

[Lauront]

Sure, I don't argue with is. In fact, if people don't stick with new race it has... ehm, some benefits for SE too: they will sell 2 Fantasias instead of 1 or maybe even 3 if player tried to play with both Viera and Hrothgar.

Agreed. The initial bumper crop of fantasia sales may even overwhelm the subs gained from the addition of the new races, who knows. I agree though that we need to wait a bit to see how the population figures settle down, once the expansion high wears off a little.

They'd see a lot of Fantasia revenue if they updated the customisation system for the older races which, at this point, are starting to look a little dated next to the newer models and environments.

And maybe more subs. I bet they're using the new races as a test case for whether it's profitable to perform more extensive upgrades to the customisation and textures.

[zeylos]

They are the most accurate we have right now. How that holds up over time? Who knows. Wont know til we get more.


Not interested in indulging your strange complex over Hrothgar or popularity, just came to point out the bad info being spread.
If you wanna talk numbers then just look em up, don't make em up.

Why did I know that whenever male hrotgar numbers were said, and confirmed to be rather low you'd get all aggressive even if I was respectful through all my points and made it clear it was just my opnion? Male hrotgar arent as popular as u headcannon them to be lol, there's 16k of them in the race statistics a guy posted on another thread, and thats even with all the new race hype, meaning therell be even less in 2-3 weeks (many less in 1-2 months probs). Saying male hrotgar arent and wont be popular isnt an attack on u or the race its just a fact, just like it is that female viera wont ever be as popular as uwu waifu catgirl or that male viera will likely also be at 2nd-3rd spot on the racial statistics