Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[LystAP]

Supporting ManBuns!

[Berret_Snow]

It matters in the sense that it risks eroding away support for the inclusion of male viera. Hrothgar wouldn't be my first pick for a new playable race but I recognise that they bring something genuinely new to the table that the other races simply do not provide - namely a bestial race. It's not something to lose any sleep over but I do find it telling that whenever someone shows up to state that male viera should not be added they're immediately pounced on but there's often support for the idea that Hrothgar don't matter.

The support has been eroding ever since Hrothgar were announced for obvious reasons. Yeah same, I'm not going to lose sleep over any of this. Frankly we all have seen how fake and aggressive the people of this thread are.
*Shrug* I'm going to be enjoying my Hrothgar while they fight over bunny boys.

[DevilsDontFly]

We all know that regardless of how and if SE designs male Viera, another two pages of threads from people disliking this or that about them are going to happen. And quite frankly maybe that's why we didn't get them. lol With the females we had Fran. If you googled Viera on google you would see tons of screenshots and official media about them, so everybody knew what we would be getting in regards to that. With the males though it's up to our imagination and personal interpretation of lore, that can't even be taken seriously. If female Au Ra Xaela can be the size of a bean and hit like a truck, male Viera might end up being the most androgynous or the thickest of the body builders and it would still be "okay" for the sake of it.

However because everybody has their own vision of how male Viera should look, it's going to be impossible to develop something that the playerbase won't get heavily fragmented over when it comes to design. Not saying SE is scared of doing it, but honestly if I had a business and every single costumer had a different very vocal vision on how a specific product should look like, no matter what I did I wouldn't be able to please anybody. After observing this thread for a while it's pretty clear how problematic the mere existence of male Viera can be. I still want to see them though, but I am convinced I should just accept whatever they decide to do because my ideal concept of the bunny dudes is just one in the middle of a dozen different ones.

[Lauront]

I am sure SE can figure it out given how there were similar debates on whether they should stick with XII’s style or implement a new one. There is also existing concept art by SE for the males so it’s not true that we’ve never seen any indication from them as to how they might look. It’s not an uncommon problem for a business to face and SE is a veteran.

[Lauront]

Similar debates on the females*

[Duskane]

original viera thread was pretty much the same in terms of what people wanted
short,Ripped,tall etc etc etc
only difference is that there was actual base to work off

the design team is talented enough to make something fitting for the race

and if its not for me then w/e
i just hope many others feel the same

[zeylos]

I haven't been "aggressive" about anything lmao

You said a blatantly wrong thing, I made a correction, you want to make more of it and I said nope.

I've been in these forums long enough, I know what will happen if I indulge your strange vendetta with a race that's every so thinly veiled.
I'd prob say something about how it's frankly silly to think SE makes new races just to profit off of a $10 potion when the real reason would be for the overall health of the game (through making a deserve line up of races to appeal to/ draw in the people from their competition in the MMO space. Logically getting a new player whose gonna stick around and is already use to MMOs is more attractive to them and from everything they say it seems like the case). Or how if they really just want to push potions they would, IDK, just make a 3rd clan to some of the popular races and give them new faces and better textures which would be like less than a fraction of the work of a new race with many times the profit.

Could point out how the very concept of a bunny ear person is so culturally connected to females from all sides that I doubt the popularity of the females means anything for the Males.

Can also point out how it's beyond hopeful to expect any new anything in 6.0 when they are still not done with the races they just added to the game. Viera still need to get w/e number of common hairs they will be allowed to have and Hrothgar still need their unique hairs and new faces. Neither of them got a unique hempen outfit and they will prob never have hats and helms. To be frank I don't think they will ever add the other genders and leave this game like their other MMO.

But we've been through all that before so it's all moot.
I gave you a correction that's easy to google and there's nothing more needed to be said.

I honestly dont understand your obsession with defendign male hrotgar and tryign to say that male viera wont be popular. Also, I specially dont understand how u try to convicne urself the missing genders arent coming when u even said u reeeeally want female hrotgar x) Tbh, not gonna start a fight so I'll just let u be and have ur own opinions and weird obsessions.

Btw, Im just so sure that male viera will obviously not be popular just like how male miqote is so unpopular

[zeylos]

Yes, everyone's opinion is valid. That doesn't mean we can't criticize said opinions.

After all, critizing an opinion is having an opinion

[zeylos]

We all know that regardless of how and if SE designs male Viera, another two pages of threads from people disliking this or that about them are going to happen. And quite frankly maybe that's why we didn't get them. lol With the females we had Fran. If you googled Viera on google you would see tons of screenshots and official media about them, so everybody knew what we would be getting in regards to that. With the males though it's up to our imagination and personal interpretation of lore, that can't even be taken seriously. If female Au Ra Xaela can be the size of a bean and hit like a truck, male Viera might end up being the most androgynous or the thickest of the body builders and it would still be "okay" for the sake of it.

However because everybody has their own vision of how male Viera should look, it's going to be impossible to develop something that the playerbase won't get heavily fragmented over when it comes to design. Not saying SE is scared of doing it, but honestly if I had a business and every single costumer had a different very vocal vision on how a specific product should look like, no matter what I did I wouldn't be able to please anybody. After observing this thread for a while it's pretty clear how problematic the mere existence of male Viera can be. I still want to see them though, but I am convinced I should just accept whatever they decide to do because my ideal concept of the bunny dudes is just one in the middle of a dozen different ones.

We have concept art and 90% (or more) of the ppl here would be extremely happy with that

[SpiritMuse]

We have concept art and 90% (or more) of the ppl here would be extremely happy with that

Indeed. The most likely version is Basically, Elezen but with Viera faces. And I'd be happy with that. Maybe some muscle tone sliders like Highlander/Roe, but I could live without that.