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  1. #8511
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by armandojc3 View Post
    When this whole debacle started I actually thought the hrothgar were a cool option to have.

    Now that ive played both races I wish to join this initiative for male vieras. The female viera are so cool, have great and original animations, the lore for the males is already there and honestly the hrothgar suck. Its a shame we got them instead of a cool male viera.
    Such a comment being so highly upvoted has worrying implications for the attitude of many male viera supporters!

    It's unfortunate that we didn't get male viera, though we still might see them in the future. Hrothgar may not be to everybody's personal tastes but they add something legitimately new to the game's roster. Plus cats are awesome in general and a lot of people are happy with them.

    It's very troubling for people in this thread to treat Hrothgar with such disdain, especially when they lash out whenever people come in and do the same thing towards male viera. It's such a shame you can't see who upvoted a particular post.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 07-19-2019 at 04:08 AM.

  2. #8512
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They'd see a lot of Fantasia revenue if they updated the customisation system for the older races which, at this point, are starting to look a little dated next to the newer models and environments.
    I doubt it, I think they'd likely add it to the hair chaning guy ( cant remember his name lol) or most ppl wouldnt be willing to spend money to switch things like horns or miqote ears, I guess, at least I know I certainly wouldn't. If what SE wants is fantasia sales then I'd say male viera and female hrotgar can bring those in much better. I agree that there should be a customization update, but I'd personally like the missing genders first, and on the next expansion an update for all races all sexes customization. Oh, also I think that they'll also earn money because many players will likely go fem hrotgar cuz a new waifu uwuuuu uuntil they realize it isnt a new waifu uwuuuuu and go back (meaning 14 euros instead of 7), and also male viera guys would likely blow up to the proportion of female viera (specially more with ppl now wanting them more than before), but a lot of players would likely be too attached to their chars and switch back. So, I'd say it would be the right call to on 6.0 missing sexes and on 7.0 customization. Then, afterwards, a graphics complete overhaul would be something they could maybe look into. I also hope that we get various body tattoos with customization option btw
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  3. #8513
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    Quote Originally Posted by armandojc3 View Post
    When this whole debacle started I actually thought the hrothgar were a cool option to have.

    Now that ive played both races I wish to join this initiative for male vieras. The female viera are so cool, have great and original animations, the lore for the males is already there and honestly the hrothgar suck. Its a shame we got them instead of a cool male viera.
    Personally, I agree that I want male viera, but I disagree that male hrotgar suck. Personally ,I think they're a decent addition and I'm glad their here, I just hate the way they were handled and would have personally rather waited until 6.0/7.0 to see them (or otherwise, hrotgar full race 5.0, viera full race 6.0/7.0) and get a full race now
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  4. #8514
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    Both Viera and Hrothgar are limited races but it is obvious why people play Viera more because Hrothgar is the more limited of the two. I have a character of each race but in retrospect I would have probably left my Hrothgar as a Roegadyn and I will probably change him back eventually.
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  5. #8515
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    Both Viera and Hrothgar are limited races but it is obvious why people play Viera more because Hrothgar is the more limited of the two. I have a character of each race but in retrospect I would have probably left my Hrothgar as a Roegadyn and I will probably change him back eventually.
    Male hrotgar are extremely limited and they made the second worst design choice (only after genderlocked races) with them not being able to choose hair. Plus the only thing they have to refit for female viera is headgear, and for some reason they didnt even do it
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  6. #8516
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    obvious why people play Viera more because Hrothgar is the more limited of the two.
    Ennnngggg. People play Viera more because female characters, especially hot looking, are more common in MMOs. Even if they were more limited than Hroths, I suspect they still would be more popular than them.
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  7. #8517
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Ennnngggg. People play Viera more because female characters, especially hot looking, are more common in MMOs. Even if they were more limited than Hroths, I suspect they still would be more popular than them.
    Also, this game is marketed towards anime audiences, and nothing gets anime audiences more than sexy bunny husbandos and waifus
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  8. #8518
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Actually ,thanks for letting me know, I was referring to a previous one. Anyways, we can see that beast races aren't that popular at all (mostly because, like I said, most players, or at least a very good chunk of them, are either into anime, japanese culture or anime asthetics, not into western ones. Hence why on games like WoW, where tis the opposite, beast races are so popular), and male viera would certainly beat male hrotgar numbers, but, that isnt the point, and after all it dosent even really matter. The point is, I speculate that female hrotgar will be extremely unpopular if they do them like they should, imo, beaslike, which wouldnt make them money, but I think that male viera has al the points to become super popualr and give em enough money (theyre the elegant/graceful, handsome and attractive elven styled race that this game lacks, elezen arent really any of that, they like, giraffes with akward anims) so that It wouldnt matter if fem hrotgar are unpopular, and I wouldnt not only mind playing them, but I would love seeing them arround from time to time. Is like, femroe is my favourite race (though I prefer to main a more elegant character).

    Oh and dont get me wrong, I hope fem hrotgar would be as popular as fem miqote xD, but I certainly think its extremely unlikely
    Aren't the most popular races in WoW the pretty ones though? I think it's kind of universal for people to prefer the pretty races or humans, especially over beast races.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    They'd see a lot of Fantasia revenue if they updated the customisation system for the older races which, at this point, are starting to look a little dated next to the newer models and environments.
    It depends it would be short term gains. Maybe enough to justify investment. I think the game in general needs a bit of an update, particularly where textures are concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Why did I know that whenever male hrotgar numbers were said, and confirmed to be rather low you'd get all aggressive even if I was respectful through all my points and made it clear it was just my opnion? Male hrotgar arent as popular as u headcannon them to be lol, there's 16k of them in the race statistics a guy posted on another thread, and thats even with all the new race hype, meaning therell be even less in 2-3 weeks (many less in 1-2 months probs). Saying male hrotgar arent and wont be popular isnt an attack on u or the race its just a fact, just like it is that female viera wont ever be as popular as uwu waifu catgirl or that male viera will likely also be at 2nd-3rd spot on the racial statistics
    Hrothgar will probably even out at a decent (not high) number. Probably about as much as SE would have predicted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Such a comment being so highly upvoted has worrying implications for the attitude of many male viera supporters!

    It's unfortunate that we didn't get male viera, though we still might see them in the future. Hrothgar may not be to everybody's personal tastes but they add something legitimately new to the game's roster. Plus cats are awesome in general and a lot of people are happy with them.

    It's very troubling for people in this thread to treat Hrothgar with such disdain, especially when they lash out whenever people come in and do the same thing towards male viera. It's such a shame you can't see who upvoted a particular post.
    I am personally very neutral on them. I don't really like how limited they are, and I think SE maybe took on more than they could handle with them in a short period. I have started to come to the agreement that the new races were rushed and should have come out at a later date (not necessarily for the reason of missing genders), so they could come out 'complete'.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Male hrotgar are extremely limited and they made the second worst design choice (only after genderlocked races) with them not being able to choose hair. Plus the only thing they have to refit for female viera is headgear, and for some reason they didnt even do it
    I think they didn't do it because they would also have to fit everything to Hrothgar (double the work). They probably will release updates to these races coupled together. Even then they have resigned themselves to limited updates, "some" new hairstyles, new faces. Rather, properly fitting headgear to viera isn't an "Easy" job either.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Personally, I agree that I want male viera, but I disagree that male hrotgar suck. Personally ,I think they're a decent addition and I'm glad their here, I just hate the way they were handled and would have personally rather waited until 6.0/7.0 to see them (or otherwise, hrotgar full race 5.0, viera full race 6.0/7.0) and get a full race now
    I don't know about this line of thinking. I think viera probably have their own set of problems with development.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 07-19-2019 at 07:30 AM.
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  9. #8519
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Such a comment being so highly upvoted has worrying implications for the attitude of many male viera supporters!

    It's unfortunate that we didn't get male viera, though we still might see them in the future. Hrothgar may not be to everybody's personal tastes but they add something legitimately new to the game's roster. Plus cats are awesome in general and a lot of people are happy with them.

    It's very troubling for people in this thread to treat Hrothgar with such disdain, especially when they lash out whenever people come in and do the same thing towards male viera. It's such a shame you can't see who upvoted a particular post.
    I don't think people hate Hrothgar, I would argue they were really looking forward to them but because we were told that they would be really customizable and interesting it set everyone's (here we go, oh boys) expectations to be higher for the race. The fact we not only can't use any of our collected hairstyles plus we need to fantasia just to change just the few choices do have is lame.

    Plus my personal biggest sins: I wanted longer coeurl whiskers for the face and we can't be orange....like a real tiger. wtf?
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  10. #8520
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post


    These are really nice! Its very anime but I like the young adult look to them.
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