Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[reivaxe]

Why did I know that whenever male hrotgar numbers were said, and confirmed to be rather low you'd get all aggressive ..

I haven't been "aggressive" about anything lmao

You said a blatantly wrong thing, I made a correction, you want to make more of it and I said nope.

I've been in these forums long enough, I know what will happen if I indulge your strange vendetta with a race that's every so thinly veiled.
I'd prob say something about how it's frankly silly to think SE makes new races just to profit off of a $10 potion when the real reason would be for the overall health of the game (through making a deserve line up of races to appeal to/ draw in the people from their competition in the MMO space. Logically getting a new player whose gonna stick around and is already use to MMOs is more attractive to them and from everything they say it seems like the case). Or how if they really just want to push potions they would, IDK, just make a 3rd clan to some of the popular races and give them new faces and better textures which would be like less than a fraction of the work of a new race with many times the profit.

Could point out how the very concept of a bunny ear person is so culturally connected to females from all sides that I doubt the popularity of the females means anything for the Males.

Can also point out how it's beyond hopeful to expect any new anything in 6.0 when they are still not done with the races they just added to the game. Viera still need to get w/e number of common hairs they will be allowed to have and Hrothgar still need their unique hairs and new faces. Neither of them got a unique hempen outfit and they will prob never have hats and helms. To be frank I don't think they will ever add the other genders and leave this game like their other MMO.

But we've been through all that before so it's all moot.
I gave you a correction that's easy to google and there's nothing more needed to be said.

[Tabbs]

Such a comment being so highly upvoted has worrying implications for the attitude of many male viera supporters!

It's unfortunate that we didn't get male viera, though we still might see them in the future. Hrothgar may not be to everybody's personal tastes but they add something legitimately new to the game's roster. Plus cats are awesome in general and a lot of people are happy with them.

It's very troubling for people in this thread to treat Hrothgar with such disdain, especially when they lash out whenever people come in and do the same thing towards male viera. It's such a shame you can't see who upvoted a particular post.

He's just sharing his opinion, much in the same way you make your opinion very clear when people share fanart that isn't to your tastes. I say live and let live

[Theodric]

He's just sharing his opinion, much in the same way you make your opinion very clear when people share fanart that isn't to your tastes. I say live and let live

There's a pretty big difference between stating that male viera shouldn't look like children and stating that a race already added to the game should never have been added.

[Tabbs]

There's a pretty big difference between stating that male viera shouldn't look like children and stating that a race already added to the game should never have been added.

Oh, but you've called lots of things children that other users have disagreed with. But I don't see myself convincing you of that. At any rate, calling someone's art abhorrent is still an opinion, so please respect that of others. I would also advise not promoting finding out who liked a particular post, something which could promote harassment and witch hunt attitudes.

[Theodric]

Oh, but you've called lots of things children that other users have disagreed with. But I don't see myself convincing you of that. At any rate, calling someone's art abhorrent is still an opinion, so please respect that of others. I would also advise not promoting finding out who liked a particular post, something which could promote harassment and witch hunt attitudes.

This again, eh? I called it abhorrent because it doesn't look appealing to me in any way. It also isn't what viera men are likely to look like, either, since Yoshi-P already ruled out child-like designs for moral and ethical reasons.

Idly stating that it'd be neat to be able to see who liked a post is hardly equal to promoting a witch hunt given that it's impossible to do as much. I'm sure you're well aware of that, though!

[Tabbs]

This again, eh? I called it abhorrent because it doesn't look appealing to me in any way. It also isn't what viera men are likely to look like, either, since Yoshi-P already ruled out child-like designs for moral and ethical reasons.

Idly stating that it'd be neat to be able to see who liked a post is hardly equal to promoting a witch hunt given that it's impossible to do as much. I'm sure you're well aware of that, though!

I'm not saying you aren't allowed to dislike what has been posted, you're welcome to that opinion. Just recognize that the user you quoted has an opinion and attitude which are both equal to yours.

And of course it isn't equal to promoting a witch hunt! I didn't mean to suggest you would do such a thing, but you might promote that behaviour in others. After all, that's very likely the reason we can't see who likes a post to begin with. Anonymity can be important.

[SturmChurro]

Yes, everyone's opinion is valid. That doesn't mean we can't criticize said opinions.

[Berret_Snow]

Such a comment being so highly upvoted has worrying implications for the attitude of many male viera supporters!

It's unfortunate that we didn't get male viera, though we still might see them in the future. Hrothgar may not be to everybody's personal tastes but they add something legitimately new to the game's roster. Plus cats are awesome in general and a lot of people are happy with them.

It's very troubling for people in this thread to treat Hrothgar with such disdain, especially when they lash out whenever people come in and do the same thing towards male viera. It's such a shame you can't see who upvoted a particular post.

Does it really matter if half of the people here want Hrothgar to be deleted in favor of Male Viera tho? Yeah i've seen so much pure hatred towards the Hrothgar but hey no amount of hate is going to remove Hrothgar from the game they are here to stay.

[Theodric]

Does it really matter if half of the people here want Hrothgar to be deleted in favor of Male Viera tho? Yeah i've seen so much pure hatred towards the Hrothgar but hey no amount of hate is going to remove Hrothgar from the game they are here to stay.

It matters in the sense that it risks eroding away support for the inclusion of male viera. Hrothgar wouldn't be my first pick for a new playable race but I recognise that they bring something genuinely new to the table that the other races simply do not provide - namely a bestial race. It's not something to lose any sleep over but I do find it telling that whenever someone shows up to state that male viera should not be added they're immediately pounced on but there's often support for the idea that Hrothgar don't matter.

[official_coconut]

That's a rather extreme to say especially when I see a lot of love for them on twitter with fan art of one that supposedly appears in the main scenario of Shadowbringers? While I personally don't care about Hrothgar since they've been implemented with restrictions that make them more limited than Viera I don't think they should be deleted. A complete race would have been better than gender locked races, regardless of whichever one got implemented.