SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[savageink]

Re:FFLogs. Don't care.

Anybody tries to shame people in a DF run with parse logs get reported. End of problem.

[Shurrikhan]

The problem is two-fold:

People who believe DF content is hard enough to warrant complete optimization.

Mowing lawns isn't hard work, yet one can still optimize the process so they spend less time doing it, or can do more and be paid more for their time spent doing it. There is nothing arrogant or elitist in that.

Also, certain stressors are, in fact, vital for one's sense of well-being. The difference comes largely from one's perception of their ability to respond to them.

But, the thing is, we only learn to respond to things by at least... trying. In games as in life, things don't just innately get better on their own, and when one refuses to confront their shortcomings, the larger those shortcomings grow relative to anyone who does deal with them. Making a habit of dividing oneself off from the rest just because the content of something might cause stress isn't just saying no to where you've drawn the line now, but also everything that will eventually appear on that side of the line; you're not just cutting off <thing E>, but almost everything other than A - D, so to speak.

I generally applaud being decisive in such a way, but, if people aren't keeping that reality in mind, they're not actually being decisive -- they're just putting the issue off and letting it grow.

[HyoMinPark]

LOL at the OP necroing their own thread to try and start this drama again. The site isn’t going anywhere. And, even if it did, another would pop up in its place.

As an aside, Yes. The focus on healers DPSing/healer DPS has totally lessened when you have WHMs capable of pulling more damage than the tanks.

[gumas]

this is even the first time i heard FFlogs =/

this game need parse? and no, no way FFlogs is going down, and how the F is copyright has anything to do with it? that site steal nothing from FF14, in fact from the way i see, it collect data for each class and yoshi team could probably use it for extra reference when they want to balance the class.

[Cincierta]

Why is this thread still alive?

[Vejj]

See this about the Privacy of fflogs.
https://www.fflogs.com/help/hiding-characters/


It will look like this:
https://www.fflogs.com/character/eu/lich/vedel%20vao


I dont wanted to be listed on this crappy site to but iam. Dont know how... but honestly. If i get the clue, that a player uses a dps parser or "third party tool" i report him. Its against the rules of this game and i support it.

[Alucard135]

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I would advice you to remove the link before some people report it. They simply don't have anything better to do.

[ForteNightshade]

I'd like to take a moment to thank SE for the recent changes to Healers. They were obviously made to counter the toxic behavior that FFLOGS breeds. Too many Healers were overfocused on DPS, sacrificing the safety of their team, shuffling useful and critically necessary Boles to fish for cancerous Balances. However, obviously unintentionally, a new issue has arisen in the form of Dancer. People are using it to boost their fake numbers on this dumb website, even making non-DPS jobs their dance partners in the name of FFLOGS inflation! I also can only imagine how exacerbated the issue of discrimination will be since now not only will you be unfairly judged based on your DPS, but on your ability to have a Dancer pad your fake numbers. Not everyone has friends! SE, please address this issue more directly, and take down this website for good!

I would just like to point out White Mage is currently dealing more damage than all four tanks at the higher levels. Sooo... about them "fixing" that healer DPS focus.

You are doing great. Simple as that.

Anyone using parsers to judge others in DF is a cancer. Those using parsers to judge themselves however are using the tools properly. What I find ironic is people who think you ought to do wall to wall pulls and misuse parsers are trying to act tough. They're not. They're in DF and not in a Savage raid. They would get their tails kicked in a Savage. In savage they'll be required to do more than press 3 buttons in a simple AOE rotation, and they'll have to stay alive due to mechanics. And they won't see the juicy numbers due to trash pulls not being the normal standard. They'll have to maintain complex single target rotations while surviving.

Ironically, I believe you would do just fine in savage in comparison to those eltists that give you issues. You know your abilities, and you appear to be on the right side of the Dunning-Kruger effect (you're better than you think). If you've only been playing the game for a month, you keep doing what you're doing. You'll be fine.

But it isn't "a cancer" to have someone pulling 7k in a fight they should be at 10k? I would also like to know what complex single target rotations you're referring to because out Ninja and maybe Machinist, most jobs are pretty basic. I mean, have you seen Dragoon or Samurai?

[Enla]

I would just like to point out White Mage is currently dealing more damage than all four tanks at the higher levels. Sooo... about them "fixing" that healer DPS focus.

That and I still have 70% DPS uptime as SCH in every Extreme thus far. The fights are so scripted that if I didn't DPS I'd be standing around bored out of my skull.

[Awha]

Snip . . .

It is okay to play the game the way you want, but if your play style does not mesh with the group then it is normal to not expect them to want to put up with it. At the very least they asked you to leave instead of just blind kicking you from the group. I was in the same boat when I started to play this game, I ended up leaving a couple of groups on my own accord because I knew I could not meet the expectations of the group in question either due to gear or skill level at time.

Do not take it personally if you are asked to leave or are removed from a group due to your play style, it just means that it was not the right fit and they so happened to have majority required for your removal (if you have been kicked from a party) I do not agree with berating someone for their play, no matter how frustrating it can be if the player in question refuses to learn and stick with their old ways due to the standard you do not pay my sub, or we cleared the content etc . . . in the end this is a team game and the team speaks if the team wants to shave that 15 seconds so be, no one persons time has more value over the group itself. Overall your issues seems to have very little to due with parsing and more so your time verse the groups time.