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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Yeah nah, if they didnt add things for diversitys sake we wouldnt have gotten any hrotgar at all. Male viera will look like male au ra/elezen with graceful animations, and thats nothing to do with some 'silly' political agenda (apparently, asking to be represented on a game is.... drum rollll... A political agenda!) but female hrotgar will, or at least should look fierce and beat-like and masculine, like the males, and thats nto for a 'political agenda' its because thats literally the whole point of that race
    I have no idea what the point of your response was. Hrothgar males were added in order to capitalise on a look that does not exist in the game, in the hopes that this will capture subscribers displeased with certain other MMOs. It was not done purely for the sake of adding "diversity".

    On the other hand, asking for male Viera to be a couple of inches shorter than female Viera... or a whole lot... as opposed to exploiting a broader height scale, is an addition purely for "diversity's" sake, one which is fulfilling no specific niche existing races don't already occupy and one which is too minute to yield higher profitability. It is purely done because some people want the gender dimorphism to be reversed, primarily for ideological reasons, because the fantasy-driven reasons behind it resolve to "male rabbits are smaller", which merits a huge "So what?"

    So "Yeah nah" right back atcha, bud.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    So if a woman is a leader they are masculine? I am trying to correct you since you have been going on and on about it for several posts, as if stating it as fact.
    I think Gwenorai's response to him went right over his head.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-10-2019 at 02:07 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    I have no idea what the point of your response was. Hrothgar males were added in order to capitalise on a look that does not exist in the game, in the hopes that this will capture subscribers displeased with certain other MMOs. It was not done purely for the sake of adding "diversity".

    On the other hand, asking for male Viera to be a couple of inches shorter than female Viera... or a whole lot... as opposed to exploiting a broader height scale, is an addition purely for "diversity's" sake, one which is fulfilling no specific niche existing races don't already and one which is too minute to yield higher profitability. It is purely done because some people want the gender dimorphism to be reversed, primarily for ideological reasons, because the fantasy-driven reasons behind it resolve to "male rabbits are smaller", which merits a huge "So what?"

    So "Yeah nah" right back atcha, bud.



    I think Gwenorai's response to him went right over his head.
    The point of my response is very simple. The devs didnt say that, they specifically said it was for diversity in practically all of their letters. Also, I dont want femenine male viera, If I had to choose, I'd get scaleless male au ra, slightly shorter with rabbit ears and animations that are graceful adn snobbish like the females
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    Last edited by zeylos; 07-10-2019 at 01:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Hrothgar males were added in order to capitalise on a look that does not exist in the game, in the hopes that this will capture subscribers displeased with certain other MMOs. It was not done purely for the sake of adding "diversity".
    WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WORD MEANS?????!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    On the other hand, asking for male Viera to be a couple of inches shorter than female Viera... or a whole lot... as opposed to exploiting a broader height scale, is an addition purely for "diversity's" sake, one which is fulfilling no specific niche existing races don't already occupy and one which is too minute to yield higher profitability. It is purely done because some people want the gender dimorphism to be reversed, primarily for ideological reasons, because the fantasy-driven reasons behind it resolve to "male rabbits are smaller", which merits a huge "So what?"
    Weren't you the one who initially suggested to me for a larger height slider? lol Don't go contradicting yourself now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    I'm fine with them reaching midlander height but I also personally want them to go a bit lower than Miqote. Sliders are a thing, after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Since they're a thing, they can just set the minimum below the females' and you can make yours short. Problem solved.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    This literally doesn't make any sense. How is it "problem solved"? I said I want it below Miqote males.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Right, then make it below that. Problem solved.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    Fair enough.
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    Last edited by Mugear_bahamut; 07-10-2019 at 02:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    Weren't you the one who initially suggested to me for a larger height slider? lol Don't go contradicting yourself now...
    Yes, I did. Hence the "as opposed to".

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    On the other hand, asking for male Viera to be a couple of inches shorter than female Viera... or a whole lot... as opposed to exploiting a broader height scale
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    Last edited by Lauront; 07-10-2019 at 03:54 AM.
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