Shadowbringers broke healing

[Physic]

It's actually no different than when we jumped from Heavensward to Stormsblood, now that I've hit 80 and done some preliminary testing.

~~Data points here~~

Methodology
Get ten Cure I data points and get that average in each expansion content that would be deemed "low tier" and "high tier" using min ilvl sync. It's a small sample but large enough to get a reasonably accurate average.Be sure to remove Echo in applicant content such as 8-man Savage raids.

• The Soul of the Creator (Savage) [high tier Heavensward] which has a min ilvl of 255 resulted in a value of 5,786.5 per Cure
• Ala Mhigo [low tier Stormsblood] which has a min ilvl of 280 resulted in a value of 6,302.9 per Cure
• The jump from high end Heavensward to low end Stormsblood was a jump of 8.92%

• Alphascape V4.0 (Savage) [high tier Stormsblood] which has a min ilvl of 380 resulted in a value of 12,381.6 per Cure
• Currently, I just hit 80, got my AF gear [low tier Shadowbringer] and I have an ilvl of 418. My cures resulted in a value of 13,445.0 per Cure
• The jump from high end of Stormsblood to immediate low end Shadowbringer was a jump of 9.47%

So, we did indeed get a minor increase in our healing potential in a similar vein that we jumped from the previous expansion. I also put a few more differences on my chart just for my own analysis and thoughts later, but it's there for people to see.

With the above notes, it seems the power curve is as intended.

This is also my point - let's not just work with "feels" and posters should be presenting any test data - let's be scientific and factual about our analysis so we can be unbiased with how healing has changed.

13445-12381=1064, 1064/12381=8.5%

[Ghishlain]

13445-12381=1064, 1064/12381=8.5%

I've reviewed my numbers and that number in my post is a typo. It's actually 13,554.0 which does result in the 9.47% boost. You can see that value in my spreadsheet.

Even if the number was incorrect, it doesn't change the fact we still gained some value from the apex of Stormsblood to the lowest rung of Shadows Bringer.

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I've reviewed my numbers and that number in my post is a typo. It's actually 13,554.0 which does result in the 9.47% boost. You can see that value in my spreadsheet.

Even if the number was incorrect, it doesn't change the fact we still gained some value from the apex of Stormsblood to the lowest rung of Shadows Bringer.

I tried to make this point as well when this was brought up before and somehow it angered a lot of healers.

Healing isn't broken. It just requires better planning and play than before. And you can still DPS just fine other than huge pulls (which honestly, we shouldn't be able to ignore the tank on massive pulls anyway).

[Ghishlain]

I tried to make this point as well when this was brought up before and somehow it angered a lot of healers.

Healing isn't broken. It just requires better planning and play than before. And you can still DPS just fine other than huge pulls (which honestly, we shouldn't be able to ignore the tank on massive pulls anyway).

I think it's important to note context about healing power - something the OP failed to articulate well because they only talked about the raw number of our cures. My numbers indicate that raw values of healing power hasn't changed and has remained consistent with the curve that S-E has planned out - which directly contradicts the OP's point.

What has changed is the fact that our healing power relative to the HP totals we're dealing with has been altered, thus indirectly nerfing our healing power.

In Momo's AST impression video, he commented that Benediction on a 1HP tank in 5.0 is worth approximately 4,000 potency worth of healing in a single ability - or 3,000 potency on a tank that has 25% remaining HP left if you do the linear math attached to it.*1 For context, I calculated Benediction being approximately 1,882 potency on a tank that only had 25% HP remaining at the beginning of Stormblood.*2 This means Benediction is working 60% harder. It doesn't meant we, as healers, are working 60% harder as well to maintain the tank's health, but we are definitely working harder just based on what I've been seen and been doing in my various DRs since ShB release.

With that being said, I wouldn't say that healing in ShB is broken either. Just because we have to work harder doesn't mean the healing is broken - it just means the developers wants us to use more healing and we'll have to adapt around that mindset. Broken would imply the healing is impossible to manage and it's not.



*1 - Momo's AST Impression Video Time Stamped for Benediction Comment - Also a WHM at i418 c/w i430 weapon has 450 potency = 13,554HP. (13,554HP/450 potency) on a 110,000HP tank = 3,652 potency for 1HP tank

*2 - From my spreadsheet notes in 4.0: "Assumes 75% HP restored on 46K HP Tank ~i310 (no Susano Weapon) - baseline 450 Potency = 8,250 HP (i310 w/ Susano Weapon) [no party bonus]"